Ranking the Espada

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Let’s have an exercise in futility: ranking the Espada. There have been many number theories and mathematical sequences generated in order to create a logical order to the ranking of the Espada but so far none have been correct. Because I’m bored, let’s talk about what you think the ranking of the Espada might be. There might be spoilers below so don’t click if you’re not caught up with the manga. I have included a picture of the infamous tea party table seating for reference (click for bigger).



tea party

Here’s my personal prediction on the ranking:

1. Ulquiorra
2. Nnoitra
3. Stark
4. Old Espada
5. Halibel
6. Grimmjow
7. Zommari
8. Szayelaporro
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammy

Bolded names are the confirmed rankings by manga. All the rest are based on gut feeling with no complicated number sequences or formulas, except for Noitora – I think he is #2 based on what he told Telsa. He thinks he’s the strongest Espada but yet he’s not recognised as the strongest, so this probably means he’s #2. And I think Ulquiorra is #1 because he’s so damn intelligent and analytical, and he is Aizen’s pet as well.

This is the current actual rankings as revealed by the manga, together with my new predictions:

1. Stark
2. Halibel
3. Old Espada
4. Ulquiorra
5. Nnoitra
6. Grimmjow
7. Zommari
8. Szayelaporro
9. Aaroniero
10. Yammy

So let me hear all your theories and predictions on the rankings of the Espada!

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1940 Comments

  1. Quietstorm
    Posted October 24, 2008 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    It’s getting weird…. Komamura needed Bankai to defeat one of Barragan’s fraccion and it seems Soifon is gonna need it too to defeat that “tiger” guy…. Explain to me how Hitsugaya stands a chance against Halibel, one of the top 3 Espada who is stronger than Ulquiorra… Let me remind you that Ulquiorra has been very impressive so far….

  2. yoyo
    Posted October 24, 2008 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    @ Quietstorm
    I dont think Komamura “needed” bankai to defeat Pou, but he just wanted to get that fight over with. As you recall Komamura didnt have nay disadvantage on that fight, except a punch that he rose up again.

    Ggio Vega, is that arrancar a guy or a girl? Im confused :S
    Soifon is probably gonna use bankai because we havent seen it yet. That Vega would be pretty strong for a fraccion.

  3. michael
    Posted October 25, 2008 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    The espada are ranked by how strong they are. They even mention that in the show :)

  4. Starky
    Posted October 25, 2008 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    @yoyo

    Most people think Ggio Vega is a guy on account that gio is young lad/boy in spanish (I don’t speak spanish, just reporting what some posters have mentioned). Also the complete lack of breasts, even a breast-line in the coverpage where we see it’s chest, is indicative that Ggio is most probably a guy. Of course this isn’t absolutely 100% certain at this moment.

    @ Quietstorm

    Hitsu has no chance in hell. Logic dictates he should lose. In fact, Vizard bankai Ichigo was soundly thrashed by Ulquiorra with just his hands. Hitsu is facing an Espada who is ranked higher than Ulq and he isn’t a Vizard either. It should be a bloodbath

    But this is Kubo. So what i think will happen is he will get curbstomped and is saved by one of the remaining captains. Komamura or Ukitake. Halibel gives him a nasty injury, even a permanent one (maybe cut off his right arm?) and this provides the stage for Hitsu’s next power-up and character development. The ability to create limbs and weapons out of ice or something equally shonen-ish…whatever.

    I’m just praying the little shota doesn’t beat Halibel :(

  5. Posted October 26, 2008 at 5:47 am | Permalink

    I personally think Ggio Vega is a girl(Also Ggio is a girl’s name in Japan).
    Soifon won’t need Bankai, she will see Ggio released, and as quickly as possible use her Shikai’s special ability.
    If anyone is gunna save Hitsu it’ll be Soifon(Maybe) due to the fact that her and Halibel seem similar.
    I also think Ukitake might fight Barragan for a short time.

  6. Blist
    Posted October 27, 2008 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    Ggio Vega is a guy. Trust my Bishonen instinct, lol :D

    I agree with yoyo that Komamura didn’t need his bankai to finish Po, but I think he just wanted to finish the fight asap.

  7. (insert black boxes here)
    Posted October 27, 2008 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    *sigh* My siesta is over, and im ready to stop arguing again.

    Now, it seems to me that Barragan is a bastard, but not Primero. Just because he took control in Aizen’s impotence doesn’t necessarily he’s top dog. I’m kinda with DuFai, that they’ll never show the ranks. There’s just too much conflict. But I’m quite sure Wonderwice, The Amzing Retard, is the most powerful. When he first entered Karakura Town, the 12′s Squad monitors penned him as an Espada. He could very well be Espada “0″, as someone said earlier. It would contrast to the Zero Guard. And he is most definately a Vasto Lorde. When Aizen turned him with hougyoku, the shape dressed in tape was HUMAN, or atleast in that form. Of course, he might have already been turned human shaped, and that was a final touch. So, to summarize, everything’s up in the air.

    Oh, i suppose i never have given my two scents on the rank.
    1. Wonderwice, The Amazing Retard
    2.Barragan
    3.Halibel
    0.Stark

    This coming from the guy who though Toby was Uchiha Shunsui in disguise.

  8. Jon
    Posted October 29, 2008 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    I’ve never read Bleach manga but I’ve seen every episode. i’m not clear on who Halibel, Stark and Old Espada are yet but they sound interesting.

  9. Asura
    Posted October 30, 2008 at 4:39 am | Permalink

    My rank of Espada will be:
    0.Wonderwice
    1.Barragan
    2.Halibel
    3.Stark
    thats my prediction ^^

  10. OMG
    Posted October 31, 2008 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    1. Stark – Lazy Dude
    2. Halibel- Orange Haired (Collar Covers his Mouth)
    3. Old Espada- Old Man with Crown on his head
    4. Ulquiorra- We Know what he looks like
    5. Nnoitra- Guy with huge sycthe
    6. Grimmjow- Blue haired dude
    7. Stone-face dude with skull earrings- Black Dude
    8. Szayelaporro
    9. Aaroniero
    10. Yammy
    This is the correct one

  11. Apollosama
    Posted November 1, 2008 at 2:09 am | Permalink

    here is the correct ordering of the espada
    1. Stark-even ichigo did not notice him kidnapping orihime on a blink of a sight.I really like him.
    2. halibel-( or baragan)- but i think its halibel because she is the only female in the group and she is peculiarly calm too.
    3. baragan- well they say that proud people will always end losers.He maybe old and he thinks he’s so strong.
    4. ulquirra- so sure
    5.noitra- the loud brainless bum
    6.grimmjow- to ambitious yet has a good personality
    7. zommari- he thinks he was too clever that he ended being dumped.
    8.zsayel apporro granz- well his perfectly beautiful and nothing more
    9.aaronuero aaronuerri- social Climber!
    10. Yammy- did he even belong to the group.

  12. Micheal
    Posted November 1, 2008 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    Old Espada is # 3

  13. julian chuuu
    Posted November 2, 2008 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    so wait all you guys down here are saying that neliel tu oderschvank is no longer a number 3 anymore. but dam last episode blew my fuckin mind away so well put together the way they made that episode i dont know how ANYone would want to read that shit when you can have allllll those special effects.

  14. Pando
    Posted November 2, 2008 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Guys, I haven’t read the hundreds of posts here yet, but I have information that might prove that Stark is the strongest:

    Remember in the first arc when Shunsui and Ukitake are ‘fighting’ Yamamoto? Well he said so himself that those two were the two strongest captains, if I remember correctly. If that’s true, then Kubo put the two strongest captains against the strongest Espada, that makes sense, no?

    Also, not too long ago, Shunsui and Ukitake were discussing who they thought would be the strongest. Even though they said they couldn’t tell, they must have some opinion right? They don’t come off as the stupid type, so they picked a fight with Stark. Two of the strongest Captains against one Espada. All the others are fighting One vs. One, it would just make logical sense for Stark to be number one, because Hitsugaya is no where near the strength of Shunsui and Ukitake combined obviously, and he’s alone with Halibel. He could very well lose the fight, but all signs point to Stark being the strongest.

    This isn’t proof, but from what I’ve seen he comes off as a stronger Espada over Halibel. But then again, Barragan hasn’t moved an inch since last July. D:

  15. Sonic
    Posted November 3, 2008 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    Well, just some precisons.

    -Yama is the strongest Captain (he stopped 3 Captains with one attack o_O).
    -Stark is just fighting Shunsui so it’s also a one vs one fight.
    -Yeah Shunsui and Ukitake don’t know who is the strongest and they guess that Stark could be but they could also guess wrong (2 chances on 3 that they made a bad choice).

    Plus (personal opinion) if they both don’t know who is the strongest, maybe Yama knows and it seems like he keeps watching at Barragan.

  16. Nejibana_17
    Posted November 4, 2008 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    This is my presumed espada list, and i believe the most accurate espada list. some made good guesses, but this is based on fact, and some hypotheses.

    1.Barragan Luisenbarn.
    he is always referred to as “his Majesty” by his Fraccion. he is also old. Yama-jii is old, right? and Yama-jii is the strongest Shinigami. experience counts.
    2.Stark.
    he always shows up second on the espada battle at karakura. and he has only a single fraccion. plus he batted Shunsui, a senior captain who showed same characteristics.
    3.Halibel.
    she is second only to stark, match outing toshiro, a junior captain. and the former number three (Nel) is a girl. need i say more?
    4. Ulquiorra Schiffer.
    Many thought he’s number one, same with ichigo. but he takes orders from the first three, and he already revealed his tatoo.
    5.Nnoitora Jiruga.
    the tatoo is shown.
    6.Grimmjow Jeagerjacques
    the tatoo is shown. he is actually the first to reveal his espada status.
    7. Zommari Le Roux.
    he showed his tatoo to Byakuya.
    8. Szayel Apollo Grantz.
    he showed courtesy over Renji and Uryu about his rank.
    9. Aaroniero Aaruierie.
    rukia defeated him, and his tatoo on the face was seen.
    10.Yammy.
    when his fraccion mended his severed arm tatoo with a number 10 was shown.

  17. Sonic
    Posted November 5, 2008 at 2:19 am | Permalink

    Pretty munch agree with you except I will change Stark and Haribell.
    Of course we got the evidence Neliel ex 3, so Haribell is 3 but saying that it’s like saying that Haribell will fight Soi Fong because they both are girl and have their zampa on their back.
    Plus the fact that Neliel have a mission to find some VL and Stark have a mission to retrieved back Inoue could also be a resemblance.
    Plus Stark was the first Espada that we’ve seen after we knew about the lower ranking and after we see that Neliel was 3, but maybe it’s just a coincidence.
    Another thing, we also have Chirucchi, who is a girl and a previous #5 Espada; and we know that Haribell is the only female in the actual Espada but for Neliel we don’t know that and maybe in that previous Espada, another girl was #2.
    Just my opinion !

  18. Posted November 5, 2008 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    I wanna know who was in the original Espada, so far we know, Aaroniero, Cirucci, Dordonii and Gantenbien, I wonder if Aaro was always number 9?

  19. Guest
    Posted November 7, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    Paulalankelly: I’m sure Aaroniero wasn’t always the 9th Espada. The original Espada were probably very weak, so he was the only one able to evolve and adapt properly. At his current level, he would be stronger than all of the former Espada, but if he has been constantly evolving like he says he has, he might have actually been one of the weaker members of the first generation. Of course, we’ll probably never know since a flashback seems highly unlikely.

    On a more important note, it appears that the Espada fights will be happening relatively soon. My biggest problem with Barragan being top Espada is the following. He took charge of the situation immediately and acted like he was really in charge. His fraccion even refer to him as “his majesty” and their “god and king.” My question is this: if Barragan really was Primera, don’t you think his fraccion would have already called him that? With the way they loved to brag and boast about how Barragan is the best, do you really think they would neglect to mention that fact? By the way its been set up, he’s been called everything but Primera. If he’s really the top dog, then why the suspense? Why didn’t Kubo just state it up front? The most clear and rational explanation would be that he really isn’t the strongest Espada. His fraccion failed him, he underestimated soul society and he doesn’t seem competant enough to be their leader. Think about it. Do you really think Kubo wanted to introduce the strongest Espada like that?

    The ranks are up in the air, but the most logical order is:
    1. Stark
    2. Halibel
    3. Barragan

  20. yoyo
    Posted November 7, 2008 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Barrangan seemes to be fighting Soifon, I actaully think he might be nr 2. I stand firm that Hallibel is nr 3 as usual. I don’t see why the most arrogant of the Espada group can not be nr 1? Doesnt the most strongest usually have a arrogant personality?
    I’m still 50/50 about of these two will be primera: Stark or Barrangan?

  21. Guest
    Posted November 7, 2008 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

    It doesn’t make sense to rank them based on who they’re fighting. I mean, unless Kubo is insane, Halibel and Barragan should have no problem wiping the floor with their opponents. Matchups can change; for all we know, Barragan could one-shot Soifon and take on Yamamoto. Preliminarily speaking, we have no idea what will come next.

    yoyo: As far as wondering “why the most arrogant of the Espada group can not be nr 1,” I’m not saying that an arrogant arrancar couldn’t be no. 1. That’s not what I’m saying at all. What I AM saying, is that it would be a little odd if the strongest Espada turned out to be a useless failure. Now, Barragan himself has yet to really do anything, but he underestimated soul society, received criticism from Halibel and Yamamoto, and sent his entire fraccion to the slaughter; none of these qualities seem befitting of a competent leader. If he were Primera, he should have been able to succeed in his first real mission.

    Take a look at the way Barragan’s fraccion treat him. In the beginning, they pulled out a throne for their “god and king.” During the battles, they bragged about how they were “His Majesty Barragan’s fraccion.” I’m going to put this in layman’s terms now. They treat him like a king – like Primera Espada, perhaps. They revel in his grandeur at every waking moment, and yet they neglect to mention “oh, by the way, my god and king Barragan Luisenbarn is also the strongest Espada ever.” Does that really make sense to you? All I’m saying is that if Barragan is 1st Espada like he pretends to be, then why are we waiting? If Kubo wanted us to KNOW that Barragan was the strongest, he would have let us know. Instead, he chooses to draw this out. This can only mean that Barragan isn’t actually the strongest, or that Kubo is trying to pull a fast one on us.

    I remember seeing the Vasto Lorde silhouette earlier on that looked like Ulquiorra. Vasto Lordes are supposed to LOOK and ACT the most human out of all hollows. Ulquiorra clearly looks human, but he displays intense apathy towards human emotions and feelings. Seeing Orihime is what initially gets his interest. Even though he looks human, he really doesn’t understand them. Barragan looks even less human than Ulquiorra. He has a humanoid shape, but most humans don’t have scars like that. Barragan has displayed an incredible bloodlust, evidenced by telling his fraccion that he wanted to walk down a road paved with the blood of his enemies. Sure, violence can be part of the human condition, but Barragan is a monster. Of all the Espada we’ve seen, Stark and Halibel have been the most composed by far.

    Looking at Stark, I see the highest point in hollow evolution. He acts like a human, appears to be a pacifist, sleeps a lot, abhors doing things that go against his morals, and seems to be the most rational and logical arrancar we’ve seen thus far. He isn’t a fighter like Grimmjow, and he doesn’t have anything to prove. He isn’t emotionally cold like Ulquiorra. He isn’t a sadist like Nnoitra, Szayelaporro and Aaroniero are. He isn’t arrogant like Barragan, and he isn’t obsessed with avenging his fallen colleagues and judging shinigami like Zommari was; he stays to himself and doesn’t try to get involved in the affairs of others. When he is given an objective, he follows through. He kidnapped Orihime in seconds and didn’t even give his enemies a chance to do anything. This suggests Stark is quick in battle and has no intention of being “showy” or “having a good fight.” He aims to disable and doesn’t give the enemy a chance to strike back; this is incredibly dangerous for his enemies. Because of this, I feel it would make the most sense for him to be the top dog, rather than an arrogant, incompetent old man or a woman that gets talked down to by her inferiors.

  22. Sonic
    Posted November 9, 2008 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Guest, when you’re talking about humans, you’re talking about a race that could destroy his planet with a nuclear war, the one who eradicted some animals species, that could have two World War in 31 years ?
    You’re talking about that race… don’t get me wrong but human are not one and only thing.At the same time humans are capable to save other life than their own, to share their meals etc… so your reflection about Stark is the most human excuse me but I really don’t get it.Especially when we have the mamut guy who said he prefer to fight Matsumoto, typically a “male” human reaction.
    I’m agree with you to say that Stark sometimes shows his emotions, but the most human not at all, say that Stark is the most human about his reactions, it’s just saying (sorry for what I’m gonna to write,and I know guest you don’t think like that) he is the most human because he’s “white”.
    Espada have a ranking, humans feeling, emotions haven’t.Like I always say how can you tell who is the most human; the one who smiles or the one who cries ? Clearly Impossible !
    But let’s talking about the ranking, I just take your arguments, why Barragan’s Fraccion never say he’s the Primera; why Lilinette never say that Stark is the 1, especially while the “command” scene ?
    Why Kubo would introduce his Primera like that (and gave his name the last !); why Kubo give Stark a little panel “zampa’s pose” (chap 329, page 15) and gave Ulquiorra a full page (chap 318, page 06) and Haribell 2/3 pages (chap 330, page 01-03) ?
    Also don’t forget one thing, being the Primera means the strongest, so Barragan could be the strongest but a “pathetic” leader, the Espada’s ranking is about strength not leadership.
    Well, Kubo maybe does what he wants and plays with us, and except for Grimmjow, we never learn an Espada’s rank by his fraccion.
    Just have to wait but actually in the last chapter (333, I didn’t read it yet but and I just look on two pages 12 & 13, so don’t spoil me xD), I noticed a little thing that makes Barragan “special” (again) and add to him another different look from the others Espada, like the fur, the jewels, the trone, the sun emblem…
    Oh by the way I could be away from the blog for a while because actually I’m thinking to stop Bleach and wait when I have 10-12 chapters (including 333) to read.So maybe I will be there on february/march, but until friday and the new chapter, I can reply some others post, but if I don’t see you guys ^^.

  23. Guest
    Posted November 10, 2008 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Sonic: Ok, so maybe I misphrased it. I’m well aware that humans have committed some of the most barbarous and atrocious genocidal endeavors in recorded history, but the point that Stark is the most human still remains. When I say human (and from Kubo’s implications of humanity), I mean to say logical, clear-headed, and intelligent; to put it more simply, evolved. So when I say Stark is the most human, what I really mean to say is that he appears to be the highest on the food chain. If he’s Primera, he doesn’t really seem to put a lot of emphasis on his rank – he doesn’t have to.

    Lets take a look at some of the other Espada. Yammy and Ulquiorra were the first to arrive on the scene. Yammy is brutish and stupid, and although people seem to underestimate his abilities, he is quite the accomplished fighter. Having said that, he is slow, often relying on a superior to explain the situation to him. He doesn’t strike me as human (or evolved) because he is a monster, for lack of a better word. Ulquiorra on the other hand, does seem fairly human; still, he has trouble comprehending human behavior and is emotionally cold.

    Grimmjow, Nnoitra, Szayelaporro, and Aaroniero are case studies in themselves. All are either excessively violent, sadistic, or a combination of the two. You can argue that they act human because humans are violent. You can argue that Nnoitra’s inferiority complex is very human, and I would agree with this. You can argue that they all have fears, and that they exhibit human characteristics. That isn’t the point. Remember that it was explicitly stated in the manga that Vasto Lordes would be the most human of the arrancar. Whether you want to debate about the nature of the human condition with me is irrelevant – what matters is Kubo’s definition of human.

    To understand this, all one has to do is look at the humans Kubo has placed in his own story. They are not cold-blooded killers. They are gentle, often very moralistic. They fight for what they believe in, but they aren’t ruthless like some of the captains and arrancar we have seen. If Kubo really wants the Vasto Lordes to be like ‘humans,’ I highly doubt he wants them to act like monsters. Think of this from an authors perspective. If you were writing a story like this, would you really want to cast the strongest enemy as a failure?

    Now, for your argument about Barragan and Stark. Lillinette didn’t get to mention Stark’s rank because Barragan cut her off. In simpler terms, this is a plot device so that Kubo doesn’t have to reveal the ranks. Still, Stark doesn’t strike me as the kind of person to care about ranks. If anything, the fact that Barragan practically ASKED Stark if he could take over makes me think that Barragan is the weaker of the two. He might not have asked directly, and he might have been talking down to Stark, but Stark was turned away and didn’t even bother to look at him, indicating that he was merely humoring Barragan.

    Lillinette might not have felt it necessary to reveal Stark’s rank as it could compromise their position, but Barragan’s fraccion are the ones that really make me suspicious. Understand that with the way they brag about their “god and king” so constantly, “Primera Espada” would be the ultimate bragging right; so think about it – if Barragan is really the strongest Espada, why didn’t his fraccion brag and boast about it while they had the chance? This seems very uncharacteristic of them.

    Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe Barragan will be the top Espada. It just strikes me as odd that Kubo would set the 1st Espada up for this kind of failure so soon (criticism from Halibel and Yamamoto, sending his fraccion to their deaths). From an artistic perspective, it just doesn’t add up. For all I know, Barragan could make an excellent top Espada if Kubo wants this. But I’m not if that’s his real intention.

  24. Sonic
    Posted November 10, 2008 at 1:45 pm | Permalink

    Ok I get your point but actually Kubo just show us good humans because it’s the hero part; we didn’t see for now those humans who betrayed their own kind, but nevermind, but Stark is an Arrancar not a VL former yet, so I don’t know if we can apply the theory that Kubo gave us.Actually, Stark has just the good role.
    Then about the command scene, well Barragan never cut off Lilinette, Stark did.
    Stark said “For one thing” and here Kubo stopped his sentence for his plot device because I’m pretty sure that Stark will confirm that he isn’t the number 1 or that Barragan is.
    About the permission it’s funny, let just think like human and play it in a human world.
    So your are at your fiancee parent’s house and you’re talking to her father and say that : “I’m gonna to marry your girl, you’d better not have a problem with that”.I’m not sure that he will understand that’s you asked him for a permisssion^^.Plus if the guy is a republican with guns in every room, you will need to be faster than Stark xD.I’m just kidding.
    Also, I think that Majesty totally imply being Primera, I mean I don’t thing Mc Cain suppoters will call him President.
    Maybe Barragan like Majesty more than Primera, plus that give him a human reference !
    I personnaly found Barrgan’s presentation very good : we learn his name last and by Aizen’s mouth, he appeared in the center, surrounded by Stark and Haribell-sama; totally face us and in the same time Stark is turned and had his head down and Haribell-sama also didn’t totally face us; he don’t seem to be surprise by Yama’s attack, and after that sat down on his throne… no I thing he’s cool.
    But of course it’s my opinion.
    Well, last detail like I said it that I noticed in the chapter 333 and make Barragan special again.
    What is it, nothing big it’s just his shoes, yeah his shoes look on page 12, and you see that Barragan has a unique design shoes.
    The other Espada and arrancar all of them have the same design on their shoes (a kind of “Y”) but Barragan has 4 lines that cross his shoes.
    That could mean nothing but if you had it with like I said above in a previous post all the other difference in Barragan look, clearly I don’t see Kubo does such of thing about a guy who is only 3 or 2 (artistic perspective).Make a guy who he’s third with a different shoes than all the arrancar, C’mon !
    With that little/tiny detail I thing that Kubo show us again that Barragan is different/more than the other and IMO he will be the Primera.
    But I could be wrong ^^.

  25. Guest
    Posted November 10, 2008 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

    Sonic: For all I know, we could both be wrong and Halibel could turn out to be Primera. As far as Stark not being a Vasto Lorde, I don’t think that’s likely; Ulquiorra was heavily hinted of being one, so it makes sense that all above him should also be Vasto Lordes. About the “for one thing…” bit, I was never quite sure if that was Stark or Lillinette speaking as different translations varied.

    I won’t deny that Barragan has an interesting character design. He could be a really good Primera if Kubo lets him, but in order to do that he would have to make up for his previous failures by one-shotting Soifon. I agree that he looks different than the others, but it could easily be a ruse. Barragan being first just seems too obvious; then again, maybe that’s just what Kubo wants us to think. With all the fuss about Vasto Lordes being the most human, I still get the feeling it could be Stark.

  26. (insert black boxes here)
    Posted November 10, 2008 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    whatever rank Barragan is, he’s gonna open a can of whupass on Soifon and Omaeda. The way he was drawn in the last chapter, i could almost feel the hate flowing from him. A one shot would be cool, but i’m pretty sure both can probably move fast enough to dodge it. Omaeda will probably get singed by it or something. And any others with me thinking it’s Hinamori who shot the blast at Hallibel’s fraccion?

  27. Guest
    Posted November 10, 2008 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

    Something’s seriously wrong with Kubo if he allows Soifon and Hitsugaya to hold up against Barragan and Halibel; even Shunsui should be struggling against Stark. I’m sure I won’t be the only angry fan here if the shinigami can hold their own. As far as Barragan vs. Soifon goes, I feel something a la Grimmjow piercing Rukia’s stomach would be highly appropriate in this scenario. And lastly, I’m not going to even try to guess who interrupted the Halibel fraccion battle – Hinamori seems possible, but Kubo could throw any number of people in.

  28. Quietstorm
    Posted November 10, 2008 at 10:10 pm | Permalink

    It’s probably the vaizards arrival imo… Soifon got no chance to fight a guy like Barragan…. Barragan is stronger than Ulquiorra and Ulquiorra is pretty much stronger than most captains already…

  29. Dan
    Posted November 11, 2008 at 8:06 pm | Permalink

    The”old espada” as you call him goes by the name of Barragan

  30. yoyo
    Posted November 12, 2008 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    @Guest
    ALL fracions will get defeated because the good guys always win. Barragan’s fracion failed, not him. Sure Barrangan failed at actual leadership, but he may still be the STRONGEST. Hallibel and Stark ‘s fracions will probably be defeated soon too. Dont get me wrong though, I see Stark as a strong candidate of being nr 1 Espada, for reason you ppl have said for a long time ago. By the way how old are you? Im just curious, because I like what you write.

  31. alkanphel
    Posted November 12, 2008 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    After so long I still can’t fill in the top 3 Espada…

  32. pequot
    Posted November 12, 2008 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    So far, Barragan has not been impressive to me, but I will not cast any more judgments until he does something other than just sit there and think he’s cool.

  33. Posted November 13, 2008 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    @Dan
    …We don’t call him Old Espada, we call him Barragan also, if you had read previous post’s you might have noticed.

  34. Amatatsu Shitenshi
    Posted November 13, 2008 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Hmm, well I believe 1 and 2 are actually Barragan and Halibell. For these reasons:

    It was stated that the Vasto lordes would look the most human. If you have noticed, Halibel has only a fraction of her mask showing, if that is in fact what it is beneath her collar. And her face is mostly covered, so what is she hiding?

    As for Barragan, he doesn’t have an animal theme like the Adjuchas. Sitting in a throne with a crown like mask. Seems like a king theme is a very human motif to me. A Vasto Lorde perhaps?

    For that matter, Stark’s broken mask looks like a human jaw bone and is very small in comparison with broken masks like Grimmjows or Ullquioras.

    Could be that all three, which obviously hold the top 3 ranks, are Vasto lordes.

  35. i_noe!!
    Posted November 14, 2008 at 2:56 am | Permalink

    1. Stark
    2. Halibel
    3. Old Espada
    4. Ulquiorra(his number is on his chest)
    5. Nnoitra(on his tongue -3-)
    6. Grimmjow(Back of his arm?!?)
    7. Zommari(im not sure -3-)
    8. Szayelaporro(proven O_O)
    9. Aaroniero(he says dat he is 9th wen his fights Rukia(Life to Death match(u noe??)
    10. Yammy(lol, he is too obvious)

  36. The list is not true any more.
    Posted November 19, 2008 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    The New List has been revealed with the following order of the espadas:

    *1 Barragan Luisenbarn (the old man that wasnt named before)
    *2 Stark
    *3 Halibel
    *4 Ulquiorra Schiffer
    *5 Nnoitra Jiruga
    *6 Grimmjow Jeagerjaques
    *7 Zommari Leroux
    *8 Szayel Aporro Granz
    *9 Aaroniero Alulerie
    *10 Yammy

    I am aboslutely certain of the change,
    you can look at Tite Kubo’s interview (but its in japanese, which i can speak)
    or go to various sources like wikipedia and they have the rankings.

  37. yoyo
    Posted November 19, 2008 at 8:54 am | Permalink

    Espada 1,2,3 is still unrevealed whatever you say. And in wikipedia they listed Halibel, Stark and Barangan on order of introduction.

  38. (insert black boxes here)
    Posted November 19, 2008 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    ooooh, Wikipedia, such a valiant pillar of truth there. Tite’s not retarded enough to give the ranks in some sort of press conference. He’s got people hooked, wanting to see what they are. He’ll drag it out as long as possible, to keep selling issues of the manga. He’s a genius

  39. Salyu
    Posted November 19, 2008 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    It would be too ironic for the previous (Nel) and present (Halibel) only female in the Espada to have both be ranked #3. Also too ironic for the two guys older than dinosaurs, one who ACTUALLY wears a CROWN, in both the Espada and in Seireitei, to both be ranked #1.

    Then again, it’s not like Tite Kubo ever pulls any major surprises. His hints usually aren’t very subliminal…(a mad scientist who is mad, and a scientist? an arrogant noble? a girl who flaunts her massive mammaries? HOW DOES HE COME UP WITH THIS STUFF).

    So. No Japanese guy is going to put a woman in charge of everything (plus Halibel’s first to fight. The strongest person is never first to fight). Soifon > Hitsugaya so I’m thinking Barragan > Halibel (god I can’t wait to see Soifon’s bankai. Maybe she’ll sprout butterfly wings and a proboscis). And I’m putting Stark as 1 just because strong guys are often lazy. And because he’s a lolicon.

    1. Stark
    2. Barragan
    3. Halibel

    In hindsight, it seems like Hitsugaya really exaggerated the strength of the Hollows. There’re only 5 left (where they hell did Yami run off to, that useless bastard), a far cry from the “if they had 10 vasto lordes they could overrun Soul Society”.

  40. yoyo
    Posted November 20, 2008 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Salyu
    Espada Numero 9-5 were defeated because they were perhaps not Vaste Lorde?

    Sigh, Nanao should join the battle against Halibels fracions it would be the perfect girl battle ever, 3 vs 3
    Rangiku + Hinamori + Nanao
    VS
    Apache + Mira-Rose + Sun-sun

  41. Posted November 21, 2008 at 5:58 am | Permalink

    I really hope Nanao gets here aswel to help Momo and Rangiku aswel.
    It’d just be an epic fight, and wow what was that Chimera thing?

    Also would anyone like to join my forum?
    http://www.soulsociety.boardzero.com it’s a bleach one and I need members its very active and about 3 months old.

  42. Posted November 26, 2008 at 11:21 am | Permalink
  43. DuFai
    Posted November 26, 2008 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    I finally got a little Shunsui on Stark.

    Hey guys, there’s something really important I want to share. I was watching episode 194 and saw the palace Neliel used to own. I instantly recognized it as the same palace that Halibel and her fraccion were watching Ichigo fight Grimmjow from. Do you think that could mean Halibel inherited that palace as the new third Espada?

  44. Posted November 27, 2008 at 10:36 am | Permalink

    Nice catch *Goes to check*

  45. Name unknown
    Posted November 29, 2008 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    It’s
    1 Barragan(the old dude)
    2 Stark
    3 Halibel
    4 Ulquiorra
    5 Nnoitra
    6 Grimmjow
    7 Zommari
    8 Szayel Aporro
    9 Aaroniero
    10 Yammy

  46. yoyo
    Posted December 2, 2008 at 8:26 am | Permalink

    Dufai, maybe the anime just messed up? :S

  47. Sonic
    Posted December 3, 2008 at 2:23 am | Permalink

    Hi guys, I just noticed something about the picture when we have the Espada, not the tea party table but the other one.
    Well we know the ranking to 4-10 and if we don’t count Yammy we can see that :

    -Aaroniero (9) turn his head on his right
    -Szayel (8) turn his head on his left
    -Somarie (7) faces us
    -GJ (6) turn is head on his right
    -Nnoitora (5) is on his left
    -Ulquiorra (4) faces us

    So here we can see that there is a pattern who repeat itself twice, face-left-right (higher rank-lower rank)

    Now if we apply that to our TOP 3 we got :

    -Stark (3) has his head on his right hand
    -Haribell-sama (2) looks and turn her head on her left
    -Barragan (1) faces us

    I don’t know if that will be the final ranking but it could but a huge and subtle hint/spoiler by Kubo since that picture appeared in the chapter 255, and at that time we only knew about 2 ranks (Yammy and GJ).

  48. yoyo
    Posted December 3, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    cool discovery Sonic, but what about Yammi turning right?

  49. Sonic
    Posted December 3, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Here my personnal explaination for Yammy’s pose.
    Well if we follow the pattern Yammy should face us but he doesn’t.I think that’s because is the last Espada.
    Every other Espada who “face us” have at least below them 2/3 Espada, but since Yammy’s ten he got no other Espada below him.
    So he doesn’t “deserve” that “pose” and he got the next one (turn on his left, we see his right side), just like all the other “second”, Haribell-sama, Nnoitora and Szayel.
    But like I said it’s my own perception and I totally could be wrong.

  50. Posted December 3, 2008 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Interesting discovery Sonic.
    It is definately something to look into.
    You could either be totally right or completely wrong, only time will tell :D

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