Code Geass R2, Episode 15- The World of C


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As expected some of the truth of geass is revealed, although to a lot of us it’s probably not that much of a surprise what C.C.’s wish was. Other than that we got to see Drugzaku struggling with himself, Nunally asserting her authority, and a literal “cliffhanger.” Oh, and a naked C.C. and a loli C.C., I almost didn’t survive that.

This scene made me giggle, because it made geass look like some sort of laser beam when it’s actually invisible. I guess it’s just a way for them to allow the viewer to understand what’s going on, despite it not really being visible. Well Lelouch, it was a good plan to think up, even though we know it really wasn’t going to work.


That’s goddamn right Kallen! Slap Drugzaku silly!

It would seem Suzaku is still struggling with his morality, it is not so easily cast aside as he tried to do last episode. This episode showed both Lelouch and Suzaku in a much brighter light than last episode, and they both showed empathy and resolve here in contrast to the dark nature of their actions in episode 14.

By now we’ve seen multiple stages of Charles’ life: from shouta, to young man, to old man in a wig. V.V. looks just as shouta now as he did back then, except without the ridiculously long hair. And they made a promise to one another not to lie when they made their contract, which gives reason to some of the things Charles said last week.

Surprise! The show can’t end at episode 15 so of course he’s not dead! No, instead he has taken V.V.’s immortality in exchange for the loss of his own geass. Kind of silly that they call that taking their “code,” but made up uses of English words in this show shouldn’t be too surprising.

Oh god, not these two. Out of all of the storylines in Geass I find this one to be one of the stupidest and most uninteresting. Two generally incompetent, dull, and boring characters who are easily manipulated by Lelouch falling in love. It’s like a really bad Romeo and Juliet with the Brittanian woman and the Japanese guy. Gag me with a spoon. Thankfully supameido Sayoko is there to bring the pain.

I didn’t really understand what this “you are me, I am you” and “one person” metaphor stuff is about. I guess they couldn’t just tell us everything in one episode, and had to leave some of the mysteries up in the air.

Most people saw this one coming. From the very beginning, when I knew she was immortal, the first wish I thought she could have would be to die. It kind of flows naturally from being immortal and alone most of the time, and watching people you’ve grown close to die of old age or the frailties of human life. What I didn’t predict was that the underlying truth of geass user and geass giver was for the user to become powerful enough to kill the giver and take their place in immortality. I just thought it was unique to C.C.’s contract, because V.V. said their contract was to slay the gods.

Lelouch really stood his ideological ground here, refusing to give into C.C.’s self-pity and depreciation of life. His entire purpose in gaining the power of geass was to continue living and create a world in which Nunally could live in happiness. To him, there is meaning in just existing and driving toward your goals. In the end, he isn’t willing to kill C.C. in order to gain power equal to Charles. He isn’t the cold-blooded pragmatist that Charles is, who is willing to do anything to secure what he wants.

Respect mai authoritai! She’s much cuter than Cartman, but damn she showed some spine here. I thought we had seen the last of that Ms. Rohmeier hag, but Nunally uses her hand polygraph test to figuratively smack her up. You go girl~!

Oh man the genius finally figures it out after 15 episodes! Man, what a freaking moron this fellow is. And then he gets owned by a blind and crippled girl, who can tell he was lying without even using her hand polygraph. Just by listening to him speak. That’s two lolis that have owned Suzaku.


Itty bitty C.C.!


Sayonara! Too bad I don’t think they’ll really die =/

Again, jwq3lk4jwklfsjflksd. Ahem.
What is love? Baby don’t hurt me.
She just wanted to be loved by someooooooooooooone.

After much nosebleeds and singing of cheesy songs, I return to notice that Yukana (C.C.’s seiyuu) is using her Tessa voice, which adds even more moe to this whole scene.

That is one crazy ass nun for sure. It is interesting to note how the geass affected C.C., changing her from a desperate slave to a spoiled girl who is showered with attention. If you compare Lelouch to that, he has not had such a significant change in his personality. He has the same goals he always had even before the geass, and his attitude about them hasn’t changed. He might have gained some confidence, but that’s about it.

And her prince comes to rescue her, I half expected for him to confess to her, but I liked this way better. It is interesting to note that he asks her why he didn’t force the immortality on him, as we’ve seen her become closer and closer to him as the series went on. To her, he has become more than just an accomplice, but someone who truly thanked her and appreciated what she had given him. For the second time this episode Lelouch stands his ground and refuses to give up, telling her once again that he will stay with her and asserting that he won’t let anything else be taken away from him

God I love this guy’s facial expressions and booming exclamations. Emperor Wakamoto, you are one awesome villain, one of the best in recent memory. A truly crazy ass mofo. Not exactly as planned for him though, as he doesn’t get to take C.C.’s immortality and his place gets all blown up.

Personally, I think something bad is going to come as a result of Nina inventing what is probably the Geass universe’s version of a nuke and giving it to Schniezel. He dropped the name of Damocles, although whether that’s the name of a delivery system, KFM, ship, or what remains unseen. Feel free to read the original ancient Greek anecdote it’s from, which is a pretty amusing one.

So moe I died! In actuality this is pretty messed up, as she has apparently lost all her memories from when she got geass onward. This is potentially devastating for Lelouch, who with that has lost the one person closest to him who knows everything and whom he can confide in him. What this means is that Kallen needs to come back ASAP to comfort him ^_^. In the end though, this is perhaps a way to let C.C. live at the end of the series, because if she has really lost her powers (forehead thingy wasn’t showing?) she could live a normal life with Lelouch. Although it would be nice if he could at least restore her memories before this is over.

I’m glad we finally got to the point where we found out about C.C.’s past and the nature of geass. Although it wasn’t the whole truth, I’m glad we know what we know now. Still unresolved remains the questions about C.C. and Marianne’s relationship, how Marianne relates back to V.V. and Charles in terms of geass, how they can talk to dead people, etc. It’s going to be weird having a master-slave relationship between Lelouch and C.C. for the time being, considering the previous relationship of devious accomplises.

Next Episode:

Couldn’t find an extended preview this time, if I find one I’ll add it later.
Shazam, episode 16 extended preview! Although it doesn’t show much extra, a bit of extra Cornelia maybe ;)

Lelouch and Orange speaking with a captured Cornelia, Lelouch holding a conference with Xing Ke, Tianzi, and Kaguya, a plan to rescue Nunally, and the orange haired Rounds looking in on Kallen. Oh, and C.C. stripping, can’t forget that ^_^

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40 Comments

  1. Halcyon
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    I loved this episode from start to finish. It definitely fleshed out Charles and V.V.’s characters and finally shown the spotlight on one of the central characters which has been largely ignored all season, C.C.

    She seems to have a really tragic upbringing and we finally know the secret to immortality! Kill the person who gives you Geass. But how is that possible? How do you kill someone who’s immortal and immune to Geass? Looks like Sunrise has some more work to do to fill these ever increasing plotholes.

    I love how Lelouch is finally being treated like a human being, instead of a heartless monster now. That’s a big step towards making him more “normal”.

    Kudos to Nunnally for not being just a puppet and exercising her authoritah!!

    Kallen slaps Suzaku and says NO to drugs. Way to go Kallen. Apparently those D.A.R.E. commercials really paid off.

    They still haven’t explained who are these “Gods” that V.V. and Charles’ are intent on killing.

    Finally, the pairing we’ve been waiting for since the OP credits of Season 2, Ougi x Viletta. While some people may despise this pairing, it certainly allows the characters to be more than just background fodder. I mean, really, who is Viletta without Ougi? Just some racist turncoat. And without Villeta, Ougi is just some stooge like Asashina. The fact that he’s fallen in love with someone who’s supposed to be “the enemy” gives his character some sorely needed dimension.

    I’m not sure which is better, a moe C.C. or a tsundere C.C. This is going to throw the internet into mass confusion.

    From the looks of the previews, Cornelia will be joining LelouchAPolooza. My condolences to Crusader. This week is going to be hard for him. ;)

  2. Haesslich
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    I have but one thing to say: A Shy C.C. is Cute, Too. Horribly, horribly cute, especially when combined with a Tessa-style voice. Now all she needs to do is trip once, and the moe-attack will be complete.

    … which makes it TWO WMD-style moe green-haired girls this season. Impz must be dying of jealousy. Now, whether the rest can rescue Nunnally before Lohrmeyer has her offed, is another story.

  3. SlothMaster
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    The line “Are you my new master?” at the end really got me … but I want Kallen back !!! I think Lulu has forgotten about her :(
    Oh and I don’t really care about Schniezel’s bomb (apart from the strange coincidence that Japan suffered a lot from nukes), the Emperor is now offcially immortal so he can’t dethrone BigDaddy, and Lulu is probably facing loyalty issues from teh Knights so only thing he can do is blow up Italy and slimy France.

  4. Rayndog
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    what website do you guys watch these on cause mine wont show them subbed till tommorrow at 12ish

    so sorry for you crusader HEHEHEH

  5. XXX
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    “Kill the person who gives you Geass. But how is that possible? How do you kill someone who’s immortal and immune to Geass? Looks like Sunrise has some more work to do to fill these ever increasing plotholes.”

    It’s not that hard to fill in that part of the hole…apparently the Geass giver starts the process by giving up his or her immortality to the user, who then proceeds to kill the other person as per the contract (or the former giver dies if mortal wounds are present and haven’t been healed). That’s how I saw it, in any case, given the available examples (V.V.-Charles, Nun-C.C.)

  6. Posted July 20, 2008 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    @Halcyon

    As XXX mentioned above, the geass user removes the geass giver’s “code” which is the geass symbol that was on Charles’ hand. This takes away their immortality making them vulnerable to standard ways of dying like a bullet or knife.

    Lelouch has always held on to his humanity, it’s just much of the time that gets overshadowed by the dark choices he has had to make.

    I’m a Ougi and Villetta hater, if they both died the series would be better off. The other background characters annoy me much less.

    But my friend, tsundere is moe. She’s moe in many many ways.

    @Haesslich

    Impz avoids this show and flames it to me in IMs. I don’t really understand it, but more power to him. I can’t stand Macross Frontier so I don’t bother him about it too much :p

    @SlothMaster

    Fate/Stay Night anyone? ;)

    I care because I don’t see him afraid of using it to threaten countries and even use it on them. And I don’t think their immortality extends to having their body vaporized by a nuke.

    @Rayndog

    Oh I trust in your google creativity, torrents are easy to use these days.

  7. ka
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    we still haven’t know C.C’s real name D:

  8. maleficarium
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    Hadn’t CC been burned alive at some point in her past? If thats right then Charles can probably survive a nuke.

    And dont forget Anya x C.C. mystery, thats also to be explained.

  9. Halcyon
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    @Calawain

    What player do you use (I’m assuming you watch the .mkv version and not the .avi versions). Every time I use Zoom or Windows Media Classic with gg subs the subs are like 3-5 seconds behind the sound. It’s really irritating and I don’t know if it’s an issue with the the media player, the format, or something else.

    Makes me want to pull my hair out.

  10. invshika
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    zomg awesome episode

    @ ka
    it’s more likely she’ll tell Lelouch in the next episode, because she’s reverted to before she got her Geass, so i guess technically C.C. doesn’t exist…and i’ll bet everyone will die when she rediscovers Pizza Hut

  11. EvilDevil
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 6:15 pm | Permalink

    “Nunally asserting her authority, and a literal “cliffhanger.” Oh, and a naked C.C. and a loli C.C., I almost didn’t survive that.”
    dear God tx for this bountiful harvest of loli, naked, and shy CC and asertive Nunnally…

    I like Ougi and Villetta…

  12. Posted July 20, 2008 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think people really understand the definition of a plothole. A plothole is when more than one element of a plotline doesn’t add up. For example when Dullindal was shown on the Minverva in Gundam Seed Destiny long after he left (as a result of really lazy reuse of animation), that would be a plot hole.

    The immortality and code thing is pure concept. And I’ve also got to agree with Calawain, the Viletta and Ougi relationship is a totally unnecessary subplot unless they both start contributing in a major way to the plot later on. Though with Ougi that’s starting to look more likely.

  13. Onizuka
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 8:09 pm | Permalink

    well the episode was really informative on C.c past but with that new questions have risen like
    why did she loose her memory?
    where did the geass mark on forehead go?
    could it be that she has already passed on her immortality or something close to it to Lulu?
    who was the one that gave V.v his geass and also who is his master?
    why was C.c so MOE when she lost her memory?

    Nunnally standing up for herself was really a surprise yeah Nunnally show that Librarian whose the boss also her innate ability to be a human lie detector had me lol it reminded of the movie “meet the parent”

    Drugzaku chikening out was a good thing and all but i will still refer to him as such but really hitting a girl and you call yourself a knight tsk tsk tsk

    why why super ninja maido did you have to interrupt them Ougi and Villeta just when things were getting juicy yeah i support Ougi/Villeta

    The knowledge that Nina the psycho has already succeeded in making the bomb just means bad news for everyone but i m looking forward to the reaction of the”messenger boy” when he realizes what he was carrying and what he did oh yes i want to see his reaction and loop it for about 10x to watch ^O^

    There was this Korean Spoilers for future events in R2 at first i really did not believe it cause i did not like some of the spoilers but as the episodes come and go it really is gaining credibility along with this my dread at what is supposed to happen to Ootbk

    @Halcyon
    i had the same problem with gg subs thats why i started dl ecplise subs not as fast as gg but there is no lag between the video and audio

  14. Ex
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    wait so if C.C’s forehead tattoo is gone, does that mean that lulu is immortal as well? Or that she just lost it along with her memories?

  15. Posted July 20, 2008 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    @Maleficarium

    Burning alive leaves something there to be regenerated, it depends on how badly she was burned. Yeah there’s a long list of stuff we still don’t know about, like what the heck the Thought Elevator is also.

    @Halcyon

    I watch .mkv on Media Player Classic that comes with the CCCP codec and I have no problems with gg’s subs.

    @Invishika

    He already knows her real name, but maybe she will ask to be addressed that way by Lelouch rather than C.C., since she won’t know what that is.

    @EvilDevil

    I’m sorry to hear that, you poor thing!

    @Kaioshin

    They need to start knocking more characters off, those two would be a good start. The cast list is too big and by the end it needs to be culled. Last couple episodes have had some (Shirley, Bartley, V.V.) but it’s time to up the body count.

    @Onizuka

    Suzaku punching Kallen in the gut made me rage inside -_-

    The spoilers out there you have to take with a grain of salt. There have been several wrong ones, like for instances some said this episode Kallen was going to take the refrain and stab Suzaku with it, to make him remember Euphie so he wouldn’t try to give her refrain anymore. So those didn’t come about, and then people try to alter the wrong spoilers so it looks like they were right.

    At this point the only trustworthy spoilers are the magazine spoilers from Newtype and the like, the rest are hard to believe at times.

    @Ex

    We don’t know, she doesn’t always have the forehead mark anyways. I’m sure we will find out soon enough, but Lelouch still has his geass as far as I know so he’s not immortal.

  16. asdfas
    Posted July 20, 2008 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    @Halcyon

    So how much crow will you eat when Cornelia escapes and returns to the safety of Britannia instead?

    (There’s NO way she’s going to forgive Lelouch for what he did to Euphemia)

  17. Posted July 20, 2008 at 11:27 pm | Permalink

    … which makes it TWO WMD-style moe green-haired girls this season. Impz must be dying of jealousy. Now, whether the rest can rescue Nunnally before Lohrmeyer has her offed, is another story.

    I don’t watch this. I can’t love C.C that much if I don’t watch this. No, nothing can bribe me to watch this anime at all. I just don’t like it.

  18. Ex
    Posted July 21, 2008 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    @impz: sometimes when i sit at home alone at night, watching anime and reading about people who watch anime i try to entertain myself by seeing similarity between the characters and people in history and boy i sure did notice something.

    Since i’m guessing you havent watched Code geass you dont see the similarity between lulu and a certain ancient chinese leader in the three kindoms Era.

    One day while getting caught in the middle of terrorism our hero lulu(renamed Liu Bei) meets his sworn brother C.C. They make a pact so that one day Liu Bei can defeat the Evil overlord Charles vi britannia (Cao Cao) and the nation of Britannia (Wei). But before all that Liu Bei needs to get an army to challenge Cao Cao so just like in Historl, Liu Bei gets the people on his side by acting all compasionate and righteous n all that stuff. He eventually meets his other sworn brother Kallen and together the fight against cao cao and the forces of Wei.

    However, as Liu Bei is trying to form the kingdom of Shu or unites states of japan whatever. He is constantly Buttssexed time and time again by Suzaku who takes everything away from Liu Bei.(This can make suzaku lu bu, since hes over powered and all) Moving along, after Lu Bu’s ultimate molestation and Liu Bei regained his memory he quickly got his boys back together and decided he would lead him and his people away from Cao Cao’s forces and just like in Changban Liu Bei led his forces across the river into relatively safe lands.

    Liu Bei heads to the safety of the Kingdom of Wu with his brothers, his army and Andy Lau in charge of the Vanguard. The loli Empress, or Sun quan, is forced to make a decision to ally with Wei and hand over Liu bei or stick with Liu Bei and fight Cao Cao. In the end the decision was made by Li xingku (who will be Zhou yu,lu meng and all of Wu’s strategists put together) and they allied with Liu bei to fight Wei at the battle of Red cliffs.

    However not everything goes right for Liu Bei as Lu meng/Zhou yu/Wu strategists capture a defeated Kallen (renamed Guan yu) and sent to Wei as a present. Of course Liu Bei being Liu Bei dropped everything to save said brother, resulting in a not so good defeat. However Guan Yu is not beheaded and instead becomes a captured slave to the villan Lu Bu. Liu Bei vowes to get his brother back but he seems to have forgotten about him.

    However now that Cao Cao is immortalised, its really hard to say how Liu Bei will win against such a deadly Foe, of course he still has his last brother C.C (who i guess needs to be Zhang Fei) who now lost all her memories and reduced to being a Moe character.

    I just hope that Prince Shnizel or whatever (Koei version of Cao pi/Sima yi) can live up to his name and out smart Liu bei, Shu,Wu and Wei and create the Jin Dynasty like his ancestors before him

  19. Coaxen
    Posted July 21, 2008 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    Calawain, that thingy about “one man” is quite simple. Buddhism. If one can be reborn before his death, then it’s possible to be everywhere at the same time. There is also some crazy quantum theory telling that the same situation is possible for the elementary particles(electrons and quarks, etc).

    And about “in contrast to the dark nature of their actions in episode 14″ – well, war is shit by definition. Read Machiavelli, he is da man when it comes to politics and governing.

  20. Posted July 21, 2008 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    Wouldn’t this now make Lelouch immortal, as with what happened with C.C and V.V?

  21. Paj
    Posted July 21, 2008 at 2:04 am | Permalink

    @EX: That’s what I was thinking of the other day when I was playing dynasty warriors tactics the other day. (So many titles so not sure if that is the correct name) Only I didn’t get so thorough as that. .. I thought there was just a similarity.

    @Impz: I didn’t get far into Macross Frontier. . .For some reason I couldn’t stand Ranka and alto. But thank you for the summaries so I don’t have to watch it myself. I really only enjoy half the stories of Macross. . .they have so many releases. . .But I enjoyed every one of the Gundam series so to me I thought Macross was far more inferior to those.

    As for this Episode. . . .if I was a guy, i’ll probably have a nose bleed since I am not. . .I thought she was so cute. And for her wish? I thought of that before but I was just guessing. .. But wow, I guess I can understand her mentality on it. But Lelouche and C.C? I don’t know. .. I feel a c.c. death upcoming just because V.v. died and now that C.C. turned MOE she could be like shirley? *Ergh.. . No, I didn’t like shirley’s character.*

    Can’t wait for the next episodes.

  22. cmox
    Posted July 21, 2008 at 4:22 am | Permalink

    CC’s memory is somewhat reset maybe because her wish is between dying and be loved by someone or simply put forget negative experiences on relationship and start all over again to the beginning

  23. Halcyon
    Posted July 21, 2008 at 5:47 am | Permalink

    @Calawain

    That’s what I had to begin with. Zoom Player is my back up. But it still wasn’t working right.

    @Onizuka

    I did the same thing but I downloaded the DivX Player last night and gg subs work great with it. Go figure. I had to update a lot of codecs though but it was worth it. I think gg subs have a more “accurate” interpretation in terms of how it would translate into normal English. Eclipse subs seem more intent on conveying the literal translation as opposed to its English equivalent.

    @asdfas

    No, I won’t eat crow because I’ve already read the spoilers for the next few episodes so I already know what’s going to happen. I just enjoy teasing Crusader ;) Cornelia’s not going to join Lelouch in the next few episoodes. Although, I do think Cornelia will waver in her Britannian loyalty after the death toll goes up**

    **Edited to remove spoiler.

  24. Posted July 21, 2008 at 10:25 am | Permalink

    C.C has been hiding the fact that she can sew, tend to cows and clean!

  25. Posted July 21, 2008 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

    hey… how come there’s no Crusader’s Drunken Rants???

    the story left me confused. too much info after all the useless ashford junk episodes. but damnit: 1. still very limited Karen and 2. C.C.’s gone to servant mode. on the upside, she can tend to cows and clean. bah! lelouch should just her a box of pizza and all the tabasco sauce, that should put some sense back into her…

  26. Posted July 21, 2008 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

    @Coaxen

    That’s kinda interesting. I have little knowledge of Buddhism aside from the very basics so I didn’t really think of that. I doubt they are talking about quantum physics though, Buddhism seems more likely ;)

    @Omisyth

    We haven’t seen Lelouch lose his geass (which happens when you take the immortality) nor have the “code” symbol shown on him, so I doubt it. It’s left up in the air at this point.

    @Paj

    If C.C. kicks the bucket it won’t be until the very end though, they’ve created too much buildup for it.

    @Cmox

    She could have just lost it due to some metaphysical geass interaction science thingy that we have yet to be told about. The reasoning will be revealed I’m sure.

    @Halcyon

    Dunno what else to suggest then, I’m not much of an expert in media players. Eclipse is pretty good though, just have to wait a few extra hours :p

    @The Sojourner

    She may be mai new waifu.

    @Biankita

    Crusader once again had to work all day trying to get a promotion of some sorts worked out. Hopefully he can return to his duties next week!

  27. Black Kat
    Posted July 21, 2008 at 7:31 pm | Permalink

    Eclipse is nice in the fact that they do use Xvid.
    @Halcyon – Go for the .avi. Assuming you have a low end PC you can only run that… assuming you don’t have a craptacular PC then I have no idea. Have you tried using different MKV splitters?

    Anyway. This episode just brought back lots of stuff. Episode 15 always has to be like this, a kinda recap episode for any anime really.

    Kallen’s boobs got bigger in that little time she spent in her airtight shopping window, modeling that dress.
    And CC… is undressing so like was she exploited when she was all loli? Well now that she’s like in her former mind do you think she’s gonna be all surprised that she has.. curves now? like she was all cutey back then and now she’s just hawt. But not immortal so I’m like wtf right now.

    I can always come up with a drunken rant too if you want…
    OK now I’m scared. Do you have to edit your post when Tsuruya says so or is that just a limiter thingy

    EDIT: You know V.V. mentioned that Lelouch was a cursed prince but was that real? Like everyone around him is getting screwed over.
    And think about Shirley’s mom. The dad died and her daughter died. So now she’s going to go to Charles, get geass, and open a can of whup ass on Lelou.
    Then again, she could just kill herself. >>
    You know speaking of which is Charles gonna give people geass now? Like… a tall dude in a wig giving out Geass… just doesn’t work graphically.

  28. Muriel
    Posted July 21, 2008 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    Dam I don´t like CC in Chii mode, I luv the original CC… I liked the spoiled CC, the voice of Meilin Li… Ihope he gets her memories because I like CC, I want to know what happened in that year with Kallen… there´s and audio drama, but damn my japanese its just level 2…
    I hope Kallen gets rescued soon, Lucciano is visiting her, why? and she is smirking?? there´s a speculation that says he might be the one who killed her brother and knows her, which I doubt, but who knows, they surprise us every chap I guess…
    Where´s crusader I loved his argument with Halcycon about last chap, I learned so much, Calawain was dancing with so many posts in the chap review…

  29. Cassie
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 2:16 am | Permalink

    That is one crazy ass nun for sure. It is interesting to note how the geass affected C.C., changing her from a desperate slave to a spoiled girl who is showered with attention. If you compare Lelouch to that, he has not had such a significant change in his personality. He has the same goals he always had even before the geass, and his attitude about them hasn’t changed. He might have gained some confidence, but that’s about it.

    I am not sure I agree with this, though, I believe the Geass changed Lelouch quite a bit, including his goals.

  30. jack
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 5:52 am | Permalink

    @Cassie

    No, not really. I’m very happy with this episode for one reason, it put my mind at rest abot a dew things. One as you /cannot/ lie to your geass. It /will/ reflect your actual goals. “No idea how old I am anymore” C.C. couldn’t escape that, no matter what she thought at the time her hearts desire wasn’t to die, it was to be loved, same as it always had been.

    Charles wanted to alter what people believed to what he thought the “truth” was, away from what he was convinced they been fooled into believing what it was. Nietzchian-derived Social Darwinist.

    The Geass power obtained reflects what you want deep in your heart. Before he wants /anything/ else, Lelouch wants to utterly control people. For Haruhi-sama’s sake, mull that one over. This is Peoples Revolution party secretariat type brain damage, and he /had it when we first met him/.

    Now watch him go and “save” Nunnally. Bets on his concept of a “saved” Nunally being the self-actualized person confident with her power and her desires that we’ve met once she’s been removed from Lelouch? Or somebody that he has absolute control over every aspect of?

    Watch him create a new world order. Bets on it having actual, real, independance and self-determination? Or will it be set up so that he can access it to do whatever he wants it to do or thinks it should be doing?

    He didn’t even want to kill his father, he wanted to rub his nose in it. Make the old man humble himself in front of him and say he was sorry and Lelouch was the one who displayed virtue in his reaction to his mothers death. Intimate control of his actions.

  31. Halcyon
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    Here’s something that *no one* has considered yet.

    If Charles now possesses V.V.’s code and immortality, can he enter into Contracts with others like C.C. and V.V.? If so, is he going to give Schneizel or Suzaku a Geass to counter Lelouch? Maybe now that he knows Lelouch is Zero again, he’ll use Nunnally as his trump card by giving HER a Geass? Or Maybe Charles will screw us all and give Cornelia/Guinivere a Geass?

    Things to think about as Geass heads towards the final episode.

  32. Ex
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 6:12 am | Permalink

    Speaking of which, if C.C lost her Forehead tattoo does that mean she can get back her geass as well?

  33. Goob
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 10:52 am | Permalink

    @Halcyon, Black Kat mentioned that very scenario earlier in the comments.

  34. Halcyon
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    I stand corrected!

    That’s what I get for not reading all the comments all the way through :3

  35. Black Kat
    Posted July 22, 2008 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    @Halcyon
    Where are these spoilersplot thingies that you speak of and why do I not know the link? Would you like to fix that problem? (Link plz)

    Even past that is Nunnally gonna go ninja? She uses her authority but sounds like she’s killing herself while doing it.
    And OMG CC OMG CC MORE.

  36. Posted July 22, 2008 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

    @Black Kat

    No, that’s just a timer for how long you have to edit your post. We used a Tsuruya theme because of the title of the blog.

    @Muriel

    There’s translations of the sound drama you are speaking of, although I can’t really link it for you.

    @Cassie

    How so?

    @Jack

    He has a lot of pent up anger to vent on his father, to make him suffer the way he did for so long. I don’t think Lelouch wishes to control people as much as he wants to command them, like a king or a great leader. His geass perfectly complements his natural charisma and intelligence.

    @Halycon/Ex

    Hard to say for any of that at this point, once again we really don’t know for sure.

    @Black Kat

    Please don’t ask for/post spoilers in my entries, even with proper tags. If you want someone to send them you can leave your e-mail address and hope they are kind enough to send them. The problem is that many of the spoilers are very unreliable and often wrong and I don’t want to have debates over their validity here.

  37. jack
    Posted July 23, 2008 at 4:28 am | Permalink

    @Calawain

    I suppose that makes more sense. Still megalomanical power-fantasies, though.

  38. Grime
    Posted July 23, 2008 at 8:17 am | Permalink

    I believe that Lelouch’s geass is a reflection of his own despair at being powerless all his life. Subject to the winds of fate basically, and thus his desire to control his own destiny was made manifest, as was indicated in the first episodes of both seasons I think.

  39. Soaa-
    Posted July 26, 2008 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    Mmm… Here’s something interesting to note. Lelouch had his red Geass eye as he fell from the Sword of Akasha in his Shinkirou, but he didn’t have it when he returned to the Thought Elevator. Likewise, CC lost her forehead mark, and all her memories too.

    My feeling is that Lelouch might have lost his Geass, but did he gain immortality? It’s a possibility, but I wouldn’t like that. Then again… if he gained the Code and somehow, CC managed to survive, does that mean he could give her Geass too? Interesting twist indeed. We’ll have to wait until tomorrow to find out. ;D

  40. BladeGirl22
    Posted August 6, 2008 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

    I’ve watched this show since it first aired in the U.S. recently, and although I didn’t like her at first, I hope Cornelia isn’t another one of the casualties in Lelouch’s crusade.

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