Most satisfying screenshot of all time
This episode has the single best 20 seconds of Geass ever aired, bar none. Watching Kallen pull off a punch combo against Suzaku was so damn satisfying that everyone should watch it on loop like I did. There was like 20 minutes of some other stuff, but it was mostly setup for the shit hitting the fan starting next week.
Whodunit?! As if the guy would really get stuck in that world, he’s Emperor freakin Wakamoto, he won’t be taken out that easily. That annoying Miss Rohmeirer lady once again tries to start some shit with Nunally, but good ole Gino saves her. He’s such a gentleman.
It’s sad seeing C.C. in this state, but she now possesses a level of moe that’s really hard to ignore. It’s good to see Lelouch being nice to her, this episode showed even more of his softer side with his interactions with C.C. and conversation with Suzaku at the end.
She looks pretty hot all tied up like that, Orange-kun sure has some good taste, mmmmm. Errr anyways, she still doesn’t rage at Lelouch or start blaming him for Euphie’s death as one may expect upon seeing him for the first time. She has gotten some perspective on matters since last year, softening her stance on Lelouch somewhat.
This scene was THE BEST SCENE IN GEASS EVER. No joke man, I was so pumped watching Kallen beat the shit out of Suzaku here. Omni even found an animated gif of part of the scene. I watched this about 15 times before I moved on with the rest of the episode, it was just that awesome. Teeheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Super United States, United Federation of Nations, whatever you want to call it the world is now officially divided in two, Zero on one side the Emperor on the other. This is what we were all looking forward to for season 2. The first season was focused on Lelouch growing his power base in Japan and solidifying his support. Now with that support he took his fight to the world stage, involving everyone. I found Toudou’s reaction to this “war for justice” interesting, he seems at odds with many of his subordinates such as Asahina. Serious cracks have formed in the Black Knights, making it troublesome when all of these countries appoint the Order to control the united military.
That was one nasty looking pizza, but if C.C. likes it then that’s ok. I think this entry is going to end up way too heavy on Kallen kicking ass and C.C. moe screenshots. Oh well, I can’t help myself.
As suspected, Anya has a significant part to play here, likely geass’d by the emperor to forget her connections to Lelouch and Marianne. Her memories don’t match, so she feels compelled to record everything in her diary and in photos. It’s kind of sad really, to see someone struggling so hard against the corruption of her memories. We still don’t know whether she’s some long lost half sister of Lelouch, or a clone of Marianne, or what, but something is amiss. She just needs some quality time with Orange-kun to clear up all of those misunderstandings and join the Black Knights, right? Kukuku.
Bradley is an awefully clichéd character type but I guess they can’t all be winners. An evil bastard at his heart, without any of the charming insanity of Gundam 00’s Ali, I predict eventual death for this fellow. This is the first time we’ve seen serious quarreling within the Rounds as well, with Bradley having a great dislike for both Suzaku and Gino. Also another instance of double casting a seiyuu, as he shares one with Asahina.
The Knight of One has a freaking huge KMF, Galahad, and according to side materials it’s double the size of normal KMF. He also brings along an armada to join up with Schniezel, showing us that the shit will indeed be hitting the fan very soon.
Oh this certainly can’t end well. Batshit crazy Nina wants to stick a nuke on Suzaku’s Lancelot, meaning that it’s 99% guaranteed he’s going to use it (accidentally or on purpose in a rage) on the Japanese people for maximum mindfuck. Also fun to note that Lloyd and Cecile couldn’t help themselves but upgrade the Gurren into some crazy shit. That just means when Kallen eventually escapes and takes her machine back it will kick some serious ass. I can’t wait =)
Me neither Toudou, but it looks like you have some other problems. If the apples and the double bed weren’t enough, she’s got some blushing going on in a half confession. The man has a war to fight woman, don’t trouble him with this nonsense! Also appearing is the traitor Ougi who now shows no physical signs of having knives stuck in him. He’s either Sayoko in disguise or Diethard is blackmailing him over Villetta or something, he doesn’t look himself.
Every other time this guy is on screen he has a surprised look on his face. You can bet Orange-kun was calling about Cornelia, as Guilford looks pretty nervous about it later. I’d like to know what the substance of the conversation was though.
Domestic Support Officer Tamaki, glorious title for the most worthless job in the Order, great stuff. The rest of the staff is a no brainer, but I’m sure a Ougi being so high will cause some problems later on.
Weekly speech of GAR by Emperor Wakamoto, this time challenging Zero to a fight with all the marbles. Just what we’ve always been looking for in this series, a massive showdown setting the entire world at war.
Moe
IT’S A TRAP! Oh this won’t end well either my friends. You know that him coming to meet Suzaku all alone will end very badly for Lelouch. He looked kinda pathetic here, begging Suzaku to save Nunally rather than finding a way to do it himself like he has been doing the entire time. Overall, aside from Kallen vs. Suzaku the episode was not particularly exciting, serving mostly as a setup for the final stretch of episodes.
Next Episode:
Once again, I will post the extended preview when I find one.
Next week looks to have lots of knightmare fighting from named characters with unique KMFs as well as the aforementioned meeting between Suzaku and Lelouch.
Crusader’s Angry Drunken Rant
I see that Lulu likes Red States I christen thy nation Dumbfuckistan.
The places have changed the color has not.
Milady we shall rescue you from the clutches of that woman hating Lulu. Nunnaly needs you now more than ever.
Hey Feyd can you invoke some Kanly now?
Ah well Lulu makes more military blunders that would have gotten him killed if CG had a hint of realism but such is life I suppose. In any case it seems that Sunrise Is very keen on keeping Iran a pariah, so I hope that someday the Islamic Republic can declare Area 11 as the Great Satan and take a bunch of hostages for 444 days. In true dictatorial fashion Lulu has manufactured consent and put all the military forces under the control of a military junta, Freedom is on the march and in perfect unison! They would be goose-stepping but the filthy Elevens and collaborator Chinese did not have enough balls to do it. Even Todou has been emasculated by putting on make up. Congratulations to Lulu on creating the equivalent of the Janjaweed Militia and FARC, like the ass-hat paramilitary man that he is.
No matter what you do on the stage
Keep it light, keep it bright, keep it gay!
Whether it’s murder, mayhem or rage
Don’t complain, it’s a pain
Keep it gay!
People want yaoi when they see a show
The last thing they’re after’s a litany of hetero
A WTF ending will pep up your play…
Code Geass won’t bomb…
If Lulu winds up with Mom!
Keep it gay!
Keep it gay…
Keep it gay!
Invading your broadcast…
Raping your Goebbels.
BTW Kallen you should take a page from the master, Emperor Toss and everything.
While Kallen proved capable of hitting a man who refused to rape and beat her, the moment was tainted by the fact that she didn’t try to push Suzaku over or toss him down Darth Vader Style. Kallen is truly brainless for not even trying to escape and needed Gino to stop the Knight of Ten from raping her. Lulu however was able to make a heretical pizza using broccoli and to add insult to injury was abusing C2. Not only was he forcing her to strip for his sick pleasure but he even had the gall to beat her to the point of bleeding. No doubt many a lulu-fag will be making excuses, like Lulu was sorry that he hit her and other such nonsense. These same people are in fact wife beaters, though often they just beat women because they can’t get a wife without mail ordering one, and the sick fucks that my cop buddies drag to court. Soon Lulu will be beating up children with his high heels, and no doubt the Lulution will be supporting domestic abuse.
As you can see here Lulu wat trying for some afternoon delight.
Lulu has clearly been abusing C2…
Yes here’s you dear leader lulu fags…
Now I can already hear the cries from teh Lulution that this is not abuse…they are all liars and criminals.
Yes now the lulu fags will say that C2 was asking for it or some other bullshit.
In other words raep tyme!
All in all a pretty tepid episode that made clear Australia is only good for colony drops and that Iran always marches to the beat of its own drum. Thank God Blighty, Australia, Iran, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Ukraine, and Ireland want no part in the Lulution for emo-fags and old retards. Normally having Russia, Israel, and the US would mean that Britannia could not possibly lose given how all three produce high quality weapons compared the stuff they put out in the PRC, but not doubt emo and faggotry will carry the day for Lulu. I am appalled that they tied up my Cornelia-hime like that I hope she escapes and runs a knife through the empty space where Orange-kun’s brain would have been had God deigned to give him one. I hope Area 11 gets nuked again so they can bitch in the CG universe like they do now. Tactical nukes FTW!
More ethnic diversity than in the Black Knights.
The best part was when Emperor Charles raped Diethard at his own game and fucking hacked his system and made Lulu look like an idiot. ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!
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“Crusader, I love you like the little sister I never had,”
xcuseme is there any way to erase that sentence from my brain…
@Crusader
You are thinking like a rules lawyer, reality and ideal procedure are two different things again for the caveat is how important is the case.
Without rules, you have anarchy!
Secondly how friendly is the environment in which law enforcement operates under?
That would depend on the area/region. Some places (rural/suburban) are far friendlier than others (urban).
Evidence is important but even evidence can still be subverted by lawyers…evidence is not the be all end all of things in law.
*sigh* Without evidence of a crime, how do you prove a crime has been committed?
In Law, you need one of 3 things to secure a conviction on any crime:
1. Physical Evidence
2. Eyewitness Testimony
3. A Criminal Confession
Without at least ONE of the above you can not, absolutely can not, eliminate reasonable doubt and unless you can eliminate reasonable doubt, you can not, by law, convict a person of a crime.
That is the letter of the law. That is your constitutional right as a US Citizen.
We had evidence against O.J. he got away because he was able to play on the ignorance of the jury over DNA evidence and masterfully manipulate what evidence there was to suit his version of events.
That wasn’t a manipulation of the evidence. That was the incompetence of the prosecutors that led to his not guilty verdict.
Examples:
In post-trial interviews with the jurors, a few said that they believed Simpson probably committed the murders, but that the prosecution bungled the case.
“Another juror, Lyonel Cryer, also cited evidence in the decision, specifically the botched handling of crucial material that could have convicted Simpson. “It was garbage in, garbage out,” Cryer told the Los Angeles Times.
From CNN ^^^
The Simpson Case was a classic example of what happens when you mishandle evidence. Most of the jurors already believed he was guilty, they just couldn’t get around the many, many errors conducted by the LAPD. There were just too many holes in the prosecution’s case.
I also see that slavery is okay in your book under certain conditions, fine fair enough.
Where did I ever say slavery was acceptable, under any conditions?
I said C2 was used to being a slave and that the conditions and treatment she’s receiving now are vastly improved from what she’s experienced before.
Context, laddie.
Docile demeanor can be interpreted a the result of long term abuse in which the alleged victim is too afraid to act on her own. Most cops have seen the signs of abuse, and try to persuade the involved to separate for a time. That is where the problem starts.
Fact is, if a woman doesn’t WANT to separate, she won’t and the police can’t force a woman to separate from her “abuser” if she chooses not to. She has to want to leave and C2 is too stuck in her pre-Geass slave mentality to separate from her “master”. And in this case, C2 would still have nowhere to go where she wouldn’t be targeted by Britannia to become a guinea pig for Schneizel.
Just because C2 won’t file a charge does not mean that there won’t be criminal charges if Lulu decides to resist.
Just what would he be resisting for? Furthermore, if there are no charges being filed what would be the basis for the arrest? You’re putting the cart before the horse again. In order for him to resist an arrest, he has to be arrested FOR something first and if there are no charges being filed, just what are they arresting him based on?
We have evidence to suggest a fight did occur we have cause to believe that the environment is reasonably hostile to C2 we are in the clear to separate the two for the night, however depending on whether Lulu resists and to what degree that will decide whether or not he spends the night in a shelter or a jail cell.
A broken dinner plate and a band-aid covering a thin area around the finger equates to a hostile environment? Are you sure you aren’t just blowing this WAY out of proportion there?
Again, if you looked at what happened AFTERWARDS he defused the situation by showing great care and concern for her. That does not support your “hostile environment” theory.
Even internal affairs has their own prejudices do not be so idealistic to believe that they are some how paragons of justice. The evidence we have are a broken plate, corresponding trauma on Lulu’s fist, C2’s defensive wounds, and blood stains.
LOL are you serious? What you have is 1 broken dinner plate and a papercut. There are no “defensive wounds”. No cop or judge is going to look at a papercut as a “defensive wound”. You’re deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
And Lelouch was wearing a glove, there’s no way to tell if he had any “corresponding trauma” on his hand. You’re inventing evidence that does not exist at this point.
We also have a woman who is not a registered employee or a relation of Lulu’s we have in essence an illegal worker and the man who hired her.
Quick, what are the laws of immigration in the newly created United States of Japan (which is where the incident took place). Do you know?
In fact, what are ANY criminal/civil laws in the newly created United States of Japan? How about a police force? Have you seen any?
Currently what we have is an island of 1 million Japanese refugees with no governmental structure or ruling body. Under who’s law (being that the US of J is now a sovereign nation recognized by Britannia and the rest of the world) would you prosecute?
Though if Slavery is the norm in Dumbfuckistan I guess the point is moot, but in the free world this relationship would be grounds for further investigation as C2 has no papers or identification. They may be small, however a good DA can make case out of this.
The point is moot, because there are no laws in US of J. You’re applying US laws under a country which is composed of mostly refugees which half themselves were guilty of some form of crime under Britannian law.
Remember my good friend, Context? This is where your entire case falls apart.
You can’t even apply US laws in Code Geass because the US doesn’t exist. It never did. It’s been controlled by Britannia for 200 years. LOL.
You can’t apply Britannian Law either, because C2 is a criminal on par with Lelouch too LOLOL
What would your case BE anyway? Public Enemy #1 slapped Public Enemy #2? Let’s throw him in jail!!!
In any event, what really amuses me is that C2 for most of the series has been immortal. She’s been shot, stabbed, blow up, crushed and god knows what else and nobody bats an eyelash, but the moment she gets slapped everyone’s in an uproar. OH NO!! A slap!! We’ve got to rush to her aid!!
Because getting slapped is obviously far, far worse than what she’s had to deal with up til now. @_@
hard as your job was it was probably safer than being a cop or a soldier in a war zone.
Soldier’s job is definitely harder than mine. But cops, on general, do not deal with criminals on an every day basis. They get calls, they walk routes, they respond to calls, but not every cop deals with crime daily. Most cops deal with a crime after it’s already occurred and are just taking statements from witnesses. It’s only if the police wander into a crime in progress do they actually deal with a criminal, or, when they have a description of a suspect. Other than that, most cops walk around patrolling waiting for something to happen on their shift.
@Halcyon
The events of what happened will be decided by a jury, all the cops can do is produce evidence of what was left over at the scene. It is possible to argue that the cops got there just in time before things escalated. Was there too much bleeding was there too little, is for a jury to decide, however given how this was still a fight the two must be separated. I never said that this was the sole basis for hauling Lulu off, but you would be surprised at how hostile people can get at the mere suggestion that they might get arrested. There was a fight of some sort and given how one is a moe blob that can barely defend herself and the other is a strapping lad who smashes dinner plates in anger when the cause of his anger is certainly not the one he struck this is not exactly a peaceful environment. Is it hostile? We’ll let a jury decide that but in the immediate aftermath isolating the two would be ideal and in some counties standard operating procedure. Sure there will be some paper work but if it really was nothing they can file a complaint if they wish, if they want to file a civil suit it will have to be of some merit so the judge will not just throw it out. The judicial system is overburdened as it already is so there is a very good chance that such a complaint will be found without merit unless the accuser can immediately demonstrate that he/she was traumatized by the police for answering a call.
However if there was something more then things get interesting. The most a cop would get even if he/she were found to be in error is a reprimand, the cop would have been well intentioned but a bit of a fatalist. The two can be separated but the DA might not take the case, what was important was that things were not allowed to escalate. Would Lulu have hurt her again? That is for a jury to decide, all the cops would have done was force them apart for 24 hours until cooler heads could prevail, that is more routine than you think. In my experience it was better to just write the report rather than have to go back out again. More over the longer the cops are around the more aggravated the wife beater gets, again the slip up is not when the cops arrive but after the suspect’s patience has run out and then he does something stupid. Here’s what you fail to understand people make mistakes under pressure they make mistakes and lose their cool. If you can keep your cool the cops will usually leave with out much fuss, but when a wife beater starts arguing with a cop over the mere possibility of separation things get heated.
Again even when following procedure suspects do not always cooperate nor do they take their right to remain silent and calm. We don’t have to haul off C2 we can haul off Lulu if he gets too combative during the investigation. Again you would be surprised to find how few people can keep their cool when cops are around, suspects get defensive too quickly and though they have the right to remain silent they often waive those rights.
Beyond a reasonable doubt is a funny thing, the LAPD was sloppy but O.J. guilt was not beyond a reasonable doubt. There is always the possibility that he did not commit the crime and that some who the stars aligned and the evidence all pointed to him. Evidence is never perfect, you make do with what you have. Also the dangers of being a cop vary with the jurisdiction. Being a cop in a suburb is fair uneventful, but not so with the inner city.
Let’s not forget this C2 is basically a blank slate who is not immortal anymore. It’s like C2 became retarded overnight, and you aren’t supposed to abuse such people.
@Crusader
The events of what happened will be decided by a jury, all the cops can do is produce evidence of what was left over at the scene.
That’s if there’s any evidence at the scene to begin with!
It is possible to argue that the cops got there just in time before things escalated.
Not based upon what we shown in the episode afterwards. There was no indication of an escalation occurring (in the case of C2).
Was there too much bleeding was there too little, is for a jury to decide, however given how this was still a fight the two must be separated.
The bleeding couldn’t have been that much, SINCE IT WAS A PAPERCUT ON HER FINGER. LOL.
I never said that this was the sole basis for hauling Lulu off, but you would be surprised at how hostile people can get at the mere suggestion that they might get arrested.
Let’s not forget. Lelouch can Geass people. It’s impossible for any law enforcement officer to “haul him off”.
Lelouch says: “Oh? You’re going to arrest me?”
*Geass*
Lelouch says: “HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH Shinjite!!”
Cops head explodes.
There was a fight of some sort and given how one is a moe blob that can barely defend herself and the other is a strapping lad who smashes dinner plates in anger when the cause of his anger is certainly not the one he struck this is not exactly a peaceful environment.
There was no fight. There was one strike that did not connect physically.
Again, you’re making a mountain out of a molehill.
And again, you’re not looking at the aftermath of the event. Just the event on its own.
Beyond a reasonable doubt is a funny thing, the LAPD was sloppy but O.J. guilt was not beyond a reasonable doubt. There is always the possibility that he did not commit the crime and that some who the stars aligned and the evidence all pointed to him. Evidence is never perfect, you make do with what you have. Also the dangers of being a cop vary with the jurisdiction. Being a cop in a suburb is fair uneventful, but not so with the inner city.
It was because the LAPD made lots of errors on the evidence. The evidence doesn’t have to be “perfect” but it does have to be accurate to within a certain degree.
You, as a juror, have to trust that the evidence you’re seeing is true. If the evidence you get is suspect, how do you trust the prosecutor? You simply cannot, as a rational, independent, human being sit there and say a person is guilty EVEN IF you think he is, if the evidence turns out to be faulty. As was the case in the Simpson case.
LAPD dropped the ball big time. and the DA’s office was worse. They should’ve never allowed for a change of venue to begin with.
Damn morons.
Let’s not forget this C2 is basically a blank slate who is not immortal anymore. It’s like C2 became retarded overnight, and you aren’t supposed to abuse such people.
It’s not been confirmed that C2 has lost her immortality. The only thing we know is that she doesn’t have her “Code” on her forehead anymore.
It could be the case that her “Code” is temporarily inaccessible, the same way Lelouch’s Geass was temporarily inaccessible when his memories got edited.
Unless she gets shot or burned or killed in some other way we won’t know whether she’s truly mortal or immortal anymore. The shock of “being killed” might be enough to trigger her “Code” and memories coming back, in the same way that Lelouch renewing his contract with C2, triggered his Geass and memories returning.
@Halcyon
Thus proving that Lulu is a criminal. Next time sunrise needs to up the cool factor when lulu breaks the law and gets away with it like O.J.
Something like this would do:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=OYn5hxeFt10
The LAPD had to change procedure, but that was too little too late to prevent the media circus and letting O.J. escape. Even now we all know he did it and he’s laughing it up somewhere because there is no double jeopardy. God looking at the news broadcasts again I hope those O.J. is innocent people get a falcon punch to their natches.
I don’t know it was heavily implied that C2 did get her wish and Charles took her immortality. Do do hope there will be an experiment where she gets shot in the head again by Lulu the Just.
Lulu is a wife beater, Lulu geasses women into committing massacres and shoots them at point blank range. What Suzaku “almost did” to Kallen, even if he went through with it isn’t 1/100000000 as bad as what Lulu did to Euphie. Someone needs to slap around Lulu, gogo Charles.
@Crusader
Thus proving that Lulu is a criminal. Next time sunrise needs to up the cool factor when lulu breaks the law and gets away with it like O.J.
We already know Lelouch is a criminal. He murdered Clovis in Season 1. But he isn’t a woman beater though!
The LAPD had to change procedure, but that was too little too late to prevent the media circus and letting O.J. escape. Even now we all know he did it and he’s laughing it up somewhere because there is no double jeopardy. God looking at the news broadcasts again I hope those O.J. is innocent people get a falcon punch to their natches.
They f*cked up. Plain and simple. Buncha morons. I hope they all got fired or demoted.
I don’t know it was heavily implied that C2 did get her wish and Charles took her immortality.
Hm idk. Didn’t Charles already take V2’s Code? Are you allowed to have 2 Codes? That wouldn’t make sense.
Do do hope there will be an experiment where she gets shot in the head again by Lulu the Just.
Lelouch would never kill her because then he’d be TRULY alone. He needs her to hold onto his humanity.
Suzaku on the other hand, has no ties to C2 and wouldn’t bat an eyelash at blowing her away.
@Zanshun
I can’t wait to see your posts when Episode 20 airs. I want to see what back-pedaling, moral-relativist excuse you’ll have then!!
Best believe I’ll be one of the first people replying when Calawain makes his entry ready to make all of you eat crow for your moral hypocrisy.
XD
All we need is someone to declare “Moral Relativism Justifies It All!” and we are set for another 40 posts.
And, as I edit this post, it seems that Zanshun has done just that. Kant is sickened by you all.
@Halcyon, re: Zanshun
Suzaku covered all possible eventualities when Lelouch asked him if the Tokyo Settlement stood to be in danger. He said that was Lulu’s call to make, nobody elses. And indeed it is.
BTW? Seriously, by what messed up standard wasn’t that an act of domestic violence?
@Halcyon
It’s the LAPD what do you think happened…
Also giving her code to Charles was part of C2’s plans as to being successful…
@Jack
Leave it be comrade Halcyon is going to be the next Johnnie Cochran. For the right price he will bury the court with half truths and rhyming bull shit.
Next time we shall see Halcyon argue that Li is not a pedo and that Char was not into nubile young teenagers.
@jack
Suzaku covered all possible eventualities when Lelouch asked him if the Tokyo Settlement stood to be in danger. He said that was Lulu’s call to make, nobody elses. And indeed it is.
Yeah, I’d trust someone who killed his own father in cold blood and then forgot about it.
Totally trustworthy, that murdering Suzaku.
BTW? Seriously, by what messed up standard wasn’t that an act of domestic violence?
Papercut, Accident, Recompense.
@Crusader
It’s the LAPD what do you think happened…
The police are supposed to be professionals -_-
Also giving her code to Charles was part of C2’s plans as to being successful…
There’s no confirmation whether or not Charles received C2’s Code. That’s just an assumption people make because C2 doesn’t have her Code.
Fact is, we don’t know what happened to C2’s code. Sunrise has not revealed that information.
Leave it be comrade Halcyon is going to be the next Johnnie Cochran. For the right price he will bury the court with half truths and rhyming bull shit.
Next time we shall see Halcyon argue that Li is not a pedo and that Char was not into nubile young teenagers.
I told you, when it comes to law… ZETTAI ZETTAI MAKENAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Li’s not a loli because Sunrise hasn’t given Tianzi’s official age! There are lots of loli characters that are older than they look Ex: Miyu from They are My Noble Masters is over 20 years old but LOOKS like a loli.
And who isn’t into nubile young teenagers? I hope to be into nubile young teenagers well into my 80s, god willing!
@Halcyon
Posting twice are we? I am deleting one since they are the same.
PapercutShrapnel wound,accidentassault,Recompensewallowing in self pity. There fixed, there was no paper comrade it was shrapnel albeit a fragment with high velocity and that was way too much blood for a paper cut more like a deep cut (I know I actually punched glass once). Assault is basically violating a person’s space with even so much as a touch for there was no consent. I did however enjoy Lulu crying his emo tears. Oh I did not even hear nary an apology, he didn’t even say gomen na sai…The LAPD is a huge police department mired in bureaucracy allowing for corruption to go unnoticed at times, it comes with being big. There are good cops and there are bad cops, but LAPD has lots of cops, hence they will have more bad cops.
Oh by the way I think I found your profile under Megan’s Law, my you do fit bill. I guess you’ve been cosplaying as Char too much given how they included a picture of you in a mask. I also see that among your aliases you have been known as Quattro Bajeena, and the Red Comet. My advice to you is to stick to the brothels in the third world and avoid girls named Lalah. Oh and if you want to live to be 80 don’t make any plans to drop Axis onto Earth and don’t piss off guys named Amuro.
@Crusader
Posting twice are we? I am deleting one since they are the same.
Gomen gomen. I hit enter twice because my post didn’t show up after I entered it the first time. Usually when I enter a post it shows up and allows me to edit it (within the 15 min time limit). For some reason, this time, my post wasn’t displayed. TBH, I wasn’t sure my post was going to go through after the 2nd time I posted it.
Papercut Shrapnel wound,
Shrapnel wound? Aren’t you being a tad melodramatic?
Shrapnel is the term originally applied to an anti-personnel artillery shell which carried a large number of individual bullets to the target and then ejected them forwards. Today the term is commonly used to describe the metal fragments and debris thrown out by any exploding object, be it a high explosive (HE) filled shell or a homemade bomb wrapped with nails or steel balls.
Under the above definition, a fragment of a broken plate does not qualify as a piece of “shrapnel”.
But feel free to try again!
accident assault,
Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim.
Intent is an essential element of assault. In tort law, it can be specific intent—if the assailant intends to cause the apprehension of harmful or offensive contact in the victim—or general intent—if he or she intends to do the act that causes such apprehension. In addition, the intent element is satisfied if it is substantially certain, to a reasonable person, that the act will cause the result. A defendant who holds a gun to a victim’s head possesses the requisite intent, since it is substantially certain that this act will produce an apprehension in the victim. In all cases, intent to kill or harm is irrelevant.
In criminal law, the attempted battery type of assault requires a Specific Intent to commit battery. An intent to frighten will not suffice for this form of assault.
Under the above-posted definition (and I KNEW I would have to list it for you *sigh*), in order for it to be classified as assault there must be “intent” on the part of the assailant.
We’ve already determined (and you’ve admitted) that it was an accident, therefore, it does not legally qualify as an assault.
Recompense wallowing in self pity.
Irrelevant. The point is, he acknowledged his error and sought to make restitution with the ALLEGED victim thereby removing the “hostility” from the environment.
There fixed, there was no paper comrade it was shrapnel albeit a fragment with high velocity and that was way too much blood for a papel cut more like a deep cut (I know I actually punched glass once).
The alleged wound was clearly visible ON HER FINGER after the incident and it was mollified with a simple band-aid. It was the size and shape of a papercut. You cannot, in good conscience, argue otherwise.
Assault is basically violating a person’s space with even so much as a touch for there was no consent.
No, that’s not assault. If it were, anytime you bumped into someone on a crowded street, under your definition, would be considered assault since you’re
A. Violating a person’s space and making physical contact
B. Contacting someone physically.
Your definition is far too broad and doesn’t address the intent of the alleged assailant.
The definition I posted is the most accurate legal interpretation of Assault.
I did however enjoy Lulu crying his emo tears. Oh I did not even hear nary an apology, he didn’t even say gomen na sai…
Lelouch is a sensitive military leader, all he wants is a little love and maybe a hug.
The LAPD is a huge police department mired in bureaucracy allowing for corruption to go unnoticed at times, it comes with being big. There are good cops and there are bad cops, but LAPD has lots of cops, hence they will have more bad cops.
IDK about the LAPD, but here, at least, police officers are required to have 60 college credits before applying for the exam and the Academy is very rigorous. The handling of the evidence seemed to be a systematic breakdown in basic standards. I mean, for christ’s sake, they had people all over the crime scene.
Basic Forensics tells you that, in order to prevents the crime scene from being contaminated, you have to seal off the crime scene. Any idiot who’s watched CSI or Law and Order knows that.
Oh by the way I think I found your profile under Megan’s Law, my you do fit bill.
That’s impossible. Age of Consent laws vary from state to state and country to country.
Thank God Canada doesn’t have the same purtanical trappings as the US. *phew*
I always found it funny that the US allows kids to drive as early as 16 but has a higher artificial floor for being able to consent to having sex. What an odd, odd policy.
I guess you’ve been cosplaying as Char too much given how they included a picture of you in a mask.
Hey, hey now. Back in the 18th Century, a mask was the mark of distinguishment and sophistication, I’ll have you know.
I also see that among your aliases you have been known as Quattro Bajeena, and the Red Comet.
Now that’s just plain offensive…
Comparing me to a Gundam Wing femmeboy. You sir have crossed the line!
My advice to you is to stick to the brothels in the third world and avoid girls named Lalah.
Speaking from experience Crusader?
Oh and if you want to live to be 80 don’t make any plans to drop Axis onto Earth and don’t piss off guys named Amuro.
Don’t worry, I’m safe as long as I have my Death Note.;)
@Halcyon
So you pretend to be Canadian I see that is why your laws are queer and strange for many pedos do you have. Down here recklessly injuring, knowingly or unknowingly, a person is considered assault as well for many counties. Never mind about the law though your Canadian laws are to me quite alien and distasteful for you accept deserters and cowards as people seeking asylum. Let us speak no more of this.
No, for I am too poor to waste my money on such things. You see in the US we don’t get a subsidized brothel system or travel, nevertheless your escapades in brothels have become legendary. The old prophecies tell of the doom of men when a pedo named Char met a bitch named Lalah. Sadly because you are an atheist and a heathen you have never heard of the legends. Your possession of a false Death Note indicates that you are also a heretic, you death note is useless for you do not know Amuro’s last name!
Also that was Quatre Raberba Winner, he was the bloke in Gundam Wing. You sir need to watch Zeta Gundam ASAP!
@Crusader
So you pretend to be Canadian I see that is why your laws are queer and strange for many pedos do you have.
I never said I was Canadian! And statistically speaking, the US has far more cases of sexual abuse than Canada does per capita!
Down here recklessly injuring, knowingly or unknowingly, a person is considered assault as well for many counties.
Where is “down here”? Let me know so I can quickly research the laws on the books and get back to you.
As I said before, your definition of “assault” is too broad and expansive. Under your definition, a slight brush or bump against someone could be considered “assault”.
Hell, hugging someone without their consent, under your broad-based definition, could be considered “assault”.
Never mind about the law though your Canadian laws are to me quite alien and distasteful for you accept deserters and cowards as people seeking asylum. Let us speak no more of this.
The definition I posed was from a US Law site. If you wish, you can download a digital copy or purchase a print copy of Black’s Law Dictionary (the definitive dictionary for any legal professional in the United States) from Barnes and Noble for $83.16 USD, not including shipping and handling.
See: http://www.blackslawdictionary.com/ for further reference.
No, for I am too poor to waste my money on such things.
You’re a military man!! Let Uncle Sam pick up the tab!
You see in the US we don’t get a subsidized brothel system or travel, nevertheless your escapades in brothels have become legendary.
Only thing subsidized in Canadia is health care, and education. Sweet deal if you ask me!
Then again, most of western europe also has some form of subsidized health care system. Like the UK for example.
Even the US has “subsidized” programs, Medicaid, Medicare, SCHIP are all examples.
That’s not even listing the hundreds of millions of dollars that farmers get in agricultural subsidies. Or airlines. Or automobile makers. Or alternative fuel industries.
You get the point by now.
The old prophecies tell of the doom of men when a pedo named Char met a bitch named Lalah. Sadly because you are an atheist and a heathen you have never heard of the legends.
Atheist? I prefer the term shinigami!
Your possession of a false Death Note indicates that you are also a heretic, you death note is useless for you do not know Amuro’s last name!
There is nothing that I do not know (Thank to Google, instant knowledge at the tip of my fingers!)
Also that was Quatre Raberba Winner, he was the bloke in Gundam Wing. You sir need to watch Zeta Gundam ASAP!
Truthfully, I’ve never been too crazy about the Gundam franchise. The only series I truly enjoyed was MS 08th Team because the battle sequences seemed much more realistic. None of this “newtype” garbage with “ace pilots” that always decimated much larger, much more experienced combat brigades with a few quick shots of a souped up Buster Rifle.
I like sci-fi space fights as much as the next guy but when someone who barely knows how to pilot a mech starts to make mincement out of his opponents by mashing a few buttons like a 10 year old playing xbox, I get turned off real quick.
The only Gundam I’m interested in watching at the moment is Gundam 00. The character designs intrigue me.
I feel the same about Macross as I do about Gundam. It’s very hard for me to get into these series because of how retarded they treat the protagonist.
What I’m really trying to say is, less Gundam, more Cornelia fan-service.
first of all
Halcyon and Crusader- While it’s kind of amusing to a degree watching you guys write essays back and forth, you may want to exchange IM info or phone numbers and just go out on a date already.
Calawain added these pithy words on Jul 28 08 at 1:56 pm
i’m with you on that but who would be the chick in that equation my moneys on crusader catching how bout you
crusader sorry bout my late responce to your insults it took me a moment to sort threw the constantly flowing bull shit that comes from you mouth brain and keyboard
also i’m curious to what your going to do when conrelia joins lulu
i’m also curious to how few friends you have because ive listened to you all of 3 weeks and ready to kill myself, i feel sorry for you family and pets they must be on meds or something
@Halcyon
I am so disappointed that you never watched Gundam Zeta…it’s pretty good actually, no doubt Gundam 00 is keen to rehash some old ideas.
@Rayndog
Hurry DO IT! DO IT Emo fag! May you have an epic An Hero worthy of song, for it is the only legacy you shall leave! Internet is SRS BUSINESS!
Seriously man lighten the fuck up. It’s just a fucking show, sad to see that you would take your own life for it.
Here please call this number if you want to kill yourself over this: 1-800-273-TALK the number is real your problems are not.
ya sorry bout that was in a bad mood
i take back
crusader sorry bout my late responce to your insults it took me a moment to sort threw the constantly flowing bull shit that comes from you mouth brain and keyboard and i’m also curious to how few friends you have because ive listened to you all of 3 weeks and ready to kill myself, i feel sorry for you family and pets they must be on meds or something.
lines feel free to remove them, but stand firm with everything else said
also whats with the lulu bashing anyway im sensing issues
I do this because I find it fun, don’t take me too seriously. I am the guy who cheered for the Empire in Star Wars, and Charles is really coming up quick as the real showman of the series. Calawain provides enough support for Lulu as is, might as well take the other side otherwise I’d just be repeating what he said. Glad we can some to some sort of understanding.
However comrade never think that suicide is the answer, it never is.
My C2 does not deserve such a foul beating.
Wat’s this about police and law and stuff? The sad fact of the mattter is, Lelouch is the law where my poor C2 is concerned… and that’s just too bad. But I’ll relinquish her to Lulu once he gets either castrated or lobotomized. You know, for the emotional outbreaks, along with the paramount stuffiness of that icky suit of his. I don’t want her to go to Charles, though, either.
And what happened to that dog in the zero mask from way back when? You can be sure a character of his importance is plotting behind the scenes right now.
ok then
i also rooted for the empire in star wars skywalkers and jedis deserved what they got
ya but still do you hate suzaku as much as everyone else or can we argue about that
cause he deserves a firing squad to shoot him in the spot where his nuts should be
shoot him
cut out his tounge
shoot the tounge
@Halycyon
I know I’m a bit late catching the boat here, but… figured I’d toss my two cents in.
Funny thing, my issue isn’t with your view on the show. I was more taken aback by your view on rape.
First off, it contradicted what you said about law in general, which was that evidence precedes verdict. After stating this, you go on to say that if a women accuses a man of rape, it is generally assumed that she is telling the truth and that the man is, in fact, a rapist. This, dear sir, is an example of verdict preceding evidence.
Secondly, since a lot connected to rape is hard to prove (i.e. let me just type the word “consensual”, which is a touch thing to disprove– even ‘violent sex’ can be tied to poor technique or personal preference), it is generally a crime that often ends on ‘not guilty’. This is the opposite of what you were stating. Plus, sexism today generally favors men. This is a blanket statement, yes, but it still holds ground. This may add some hypocrisy to my words, but that just helps me match you!
One more point on this subject: males get raped, too. You can’t isolate it like that. That separation in and of itself supports that sexism and definition by sex are active today.
On to the anime: Yeah, Lulu’s an ass. Yeah, he acted “violently.” Technically, though, he did not beat C.C. While an emotional outburst may not equate to a planned or regular beating, it isn’t an accident. An accident is “Oh, I tripped and fell no you” and not “oh, I got upset and swung at you” so… I guess that’s what I had to say.
I’ll probably remember more in a few moments but this should cover me for the long haul (or at least for this week.)
Debate is nice and all, but please keep it centered on the show itself, not other people’s view on rape. I’ve kind of let these discussions go for the most part, but I’d like to keep them on topic. Cooperation is appreciated.
@Calawain
Fair enough!
@Inkywool
I was more taken aback by your view on rape.
The only time I mentioned “rape” was to illustrate an example in which an accusation, without proof, is sufficient enough to warrant an arrest. This is just an example of a “gender-preference” in the legal system which exists today.
My point is that Crusader seems to be an advocate of “arrest him first, and find the proof of wrongdoing later”. That’s completely contradictory to the intent and function of the US Legal System. And the only reason he supports this position is because the alleged victim is female. If a male suffered the same crime his position would be “okay we need proof first, then arrest him”. That is a prime example of gender bias.
I’m not touching the rest of the post because it’s simply far beyond the original scope of the debate, which was “Is Lelouch a woman beater or not?”
I presented both literal and legal definitions the prove conclusively Lelouch does not meet the criteria to qualify as a “woman beater”, thereby nullifying all claims to the contrary.
An accident is “Oh, I tripped and fell no you” and not “oh, I got upset and swung at you” so… I guess that’s what I had to say.
Negative. According to the literal definition of the word, an accident is:
ac·ci·dent Audio Help /ˈæksɪdənt/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[ak-si-duhnt] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss; casualty; mishap:
The keyword you have might want to look at is “unintentionally”. It’s quite clear to anyone watching the events of the episode that the injury sustained by C2 via Lelouch swinging his arm out (possibly to push or shove her out of his way) was completely accidental as he clearly did not intend to cause her harm or injury.
Now, if anyone else wants to debate me on any of these facts, make sure you have verifiable definitions, evidence and proper context (i.e. looking at the entire episode, not just cherry-picking which parts conveniently fit your pre-existing prejudices). Objectivity, not Subjectivity, is what wins debates, Lads.
You say fair enough but then you go on and spend most of the comment off topic doing exactly what I asked people not to do. Someone just needs to man/woman up and let it go for now.
All right, my bad, I’m sorry. That was really off of topic. I’ll keep those opinions to myself.
Back to Lelouch, lashing out is intentional. It was regretted almost instantly, but he had control of his actions.
I don’t think he’s a wife-beater, though. I don’t think it’s enough to bring a charge down. And, as you said earlier, a beating involves numerous blows.
The need for the last word… well, I’ll give it up if people respond to this, I think.
Jajaja Calawain lost it… why don´t you do a special page for this kind of things, where halcyon and crusader can keep going with it… flaming at each other… ok not flaming but arguing their points of view…
But at least you´ve got another page full of large comments…
By the way, someone knows where I can find a translate version of the cd drama (kallen/CC) or at least a review of it… I´d like to know what they talked about…
How the hell is Australia still independent? Our army is tiny and we’re full of minerals. Like we haven’t been conquered yet!
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