Code Geass R2, Episode 18- The Second Decisive Battle of Tokyo


Airdate of this episode, August 10, 2008…Nagasaki a-bomb dropped, August 9, 1945

While the last couple of episodes were mostly setup, this week was uh, definitely the punch line. It was also the punch out line for several characters, who are presumed dead (note nobody is ever dead in a Sunrise show until you see the body). This week we get combat, mayhem, prison breaks, and a nasty WMD for super duper cheesy and obvious ironic effect.

Table-tan thinks she can actually pilot Lancelot and drop FREIA (Field Limitary Effective Implosion Armament, what a horrible acronym) on Zero, how silly. Throughout most of the battle she is seriously off her rocker raging at Suzaku telling him to use it and nuke Zero along with the evil Elevens. It’s never really explained why she is a racist, but it’s not like I particularly care. I hope she dies.

I’m glad they saved the Siegfried, so Orange-kun could say a line dripping in awesome like “my storm of loyalty!” You are awesome Orange-kun, the only character in anime history brought back from the dead by 2ch. I can’t wait until you get your new space mecha that’s shown in the OP.


Looking so pimp there Orange-kun


Run Millay!

As I said last week, bad idea to send batty fake brother to save Nunally! Crazy for nii-san! Bonkers! He’ll probably die before this is all over too. As an aside, Sayoko looks awesome in her Mai Otome supameido ninja gear.

Wow! Fucking useless Ougi. He may bring people together by being a total wet noodle but he is useless in a real fight. He should know the battle plans and he’s experienced in fighting, he’s just nearly as useless as Tamaki.


My princess is free, free like a bird!

Aaaaand another geass mindfuck that we have no explanation for -_- I want to know already dammit! Anya needs some serious geass canceling!

I like the credits with the cute animals, definitely Cecile’s doing. Also, what the hell is up with that acronym? Superlative Extruder? Are they just making this shit up?


Oh yes, super hax Guren launch

The Emperor arrives, but Schniezel makes a sugguestion that the Emperor doesn’t really care about this battle, doesn’t care about today or reality. That means he cares about the supernatural stuff, like the World of C, so perhaps he’s going to Kaminejima in his new super flying fortress thingy.


Useless, but in a somewhat amusing way. Didn’t last long either…

Haha, it was hugely telegraphed that she was about to appear to save him, but it was still cool to see anyways. Welcome back my princess, Lelouch and me both dearly missed you.

Oh that felt good too, we all know Kallen is a “badass mother!” (dubs are hilarious) but the new Gurren is pretty damn hax. Sorry Crusader, but your favorite crazy guy became the first Rounds to kick the bucket in this series. Note that we haven’t even seen more than like 5 seconds of 3 of the Rounds, not sure how they are going to fit them into the story, if at all.

Ugh, this doesn’t exactly bode well, although I don’t really know what some grunt whose name I didn’t even remember would have. Asahina has bee stupidly trying to rebel against Zero for a long time, and for what purpose? Does he think anyone else can lead the Japanese to independence? Toudou failed, Ougi failed, who else can do it? Asahina himself? Hah, fat chance. Fellow’s probably dead now though…


The Princess has left the building

I guess it’s Kallen’s turn to have the super duper hax KMF that’s better than everyone else for a couple of episode. It was pretty nice to see the Lancelot finally get it’s ass kicked, it’s been such a spoiler through like 30-40 episodes. However, as we all know KMF top dog status only lasts for a short time and I’m sure the new version of Lancelot will be as strong or stronger than the current Gurren.

Saw this coming from a million miles away too, even if I hadn’t read some of the rampant spoilers out there. They wouldn’t have kept referring to that geass if it wasn’t going to play some important part later on in the story this season. They wanted to load as much cheesy irony onto its use as possible. The guy who said he was going to protect the Japanese just nuked 10 million+ Japanese. The guy who said he was going to protect Nunally just presumably nuked her too. A bit too predictable for my tastes, I prefer the crazy tweeeeeeests.

“Bring Out Yer Dead” Nagasaki Death Counter
1) Nunally
2) Sayoko
3) Millay
4) Guilford
5) Asahina
6) Miss Rohmeier

It would really be irritating if this was the way Nunally died. People were predicting death by Suzaku’s geass for Nunally since the episode Lelouch put it on him, it’s way too obvious and forced irony. However, as I said before nobody in a Sunrise show is dead until you see the body, and even then there are exceptions. Nunally could have very well been ported off to the World of C or some supernatural crap, or a huge list of other plot twists that could save her and the others. Out of that list, those that looked the most dead and have the least reason to come back are Guilford and Asahina. Miss Rohmeier? Nobody really cares about her so dead is good. Sayoko and Millay have a bit more plot armor then those two, and of course Nunally is a hugely central character to the show. To me it seems kind of like a weak attempt to get an enraged/emo/shit-faced killer Lelouch to come out and cause problems.

Crazy mutterings of wanting to talk to dead people are never good. Plenty of material for emo facial expressions on Lelouch, I’m sure Crusader will post them gleefully.

Overall, a pretty powerful episode and one that will serve as a definite turning point in the series. The cast is inordinately large and was in desperate need of a culling, and this episode provided the perfect opportunity to do so. Aside from the aforementioned nuke deaths, combat claimed Luciano and some Black Knights grunt that was Asahina’s buddy. Tamaki lives though, he appears in the previews for the next episode unfortunately.

Next Episode:

Low quality extended preview of episode 19.

No talky from Lelouch in this preview means serious business. Next week, Ashford survives as Lelouch rages on Rolo for failing to save Nunally. Schniezel shows up on the Ikagura with Cornelia and Ougi looks raged (Looks like Lelouch’s cover is blown! Shit will hit the fan!). Orange-kun shields Lelocuh and Suzaku alternates between looking emo and creepily laughing out loud looking over the hole that used to be the Tokyo settlement.


Crusader’s Angry Drunken Rant

The Nagasaki explosion before and after.

Britannia 1 America 0. ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!

Hello Infinite Justice Guren!

So yes much weeping and complaints about a fictional WMD in lieu of the real tragedy that was Nagasaki. Ah well I bet most of you forget the significance of having that Freja, or whatever they’re calling it these days, bomb go off the day Bockscar buzzed over Nagasaki with a single bomb. Man that was so deliciously snarky of Sunrise, to prove that their bomb is better because it creates a crater! In any case just thought you folk would like to know that maybe the Sunrise team has something to say about WMDs, like that they need Japanese delivery systems for instance.

I liked the Cecile touch…

Hey Louise how’s Saji? Need a hand?

Clearly Lulu has not interest in women…

So it seems that Guren has become Infinite Justice and soon Lancelot will become Strike Freedom at this rate…So sad to see that all these float packs have turned this series into a Gundam series of sorts. Even the Slash harkens have been relegated to tow cables with the introduction of beam weapons out the ass. Well in any case they have started to kill off some characters, Asahina, Ten-san and his comely team (such a waste), Shirin Romeyer, Nunnally, Millay, Sayako, and Guilford. Still given that Sunrise has proved most insipid about resurrecting characters I believe that Sayako and Nunnally will make it out some how given the lack of dramatic death scene. Guilford might pull off a Patrick but since Cornelia sensed a disturbance in the force I doubt it.

Tamaki is a buddy fucker in more ways than one…

Oh shi- he just said waifu…I distinctly heard waifu.

Sorry Zero but Tamaki already got the paper work done, and Nunnally did not speak now so will forever hold her peace… I now pronounce you Lulu and Tamaki. Were you hoping for Rolo or perhaps Orange-kun your emo-ness?

All in all a good day and it seems that Asahina discovered something, and Kallen’s rescue was priority no. 3. Glad to see the dumb bitch doesn’t mind to be no. 3 on the Zero priority list no doubt priority no. 2 was to find some pizza for C2. The bomb goes off because of Lulu’s Geass, and right when Suzaku was willing to die, how deliciously ironic. Man this operation was botched not only is Ougi useless but they had to call upon Tamaki to save Zero…Oh yeas much cries of being Zero’s buddy were heard. Sad to see that Tamaki was not caught in the blast, but I guess the Sunrise team just loves the fella. Suffice to say Rolo wins, just as planned…

So that’s why my Cornelia-hime has been keeping her arm like that…

Guilford was right in two ways one Cornelia must live. Second Lulu is a princess, albeit a very ugly and emo one, but a princess nonetheless given how Lulu always needs saving…

My princess is lovely as ever for no prison can hold her!

It was good to see Lulu rage about Nunnally’s “death” and it seems that Lloyd and Ceclie were not keen on installing some sort of lock out on their super Guren, but I suppose they were too busy making a jab at that opium smoking bint. Cornelia-hime escapes with her new gadgets and hopefully will make her way back to friendly lines now that Schniezel has the perfect opportunity to announce that Lulu was behind it all and lie about how Lulu had Geassed Suzaku into detonating the bomb. I expect Lulu to get ronrey real soon with only Orange-kun, Rolo, C2, possibly Kallen, and most important of all Tamaki at his side once the announcement is made.  I expect much Lulu crying and raging as he can’t actually strike Rolo out of fear, so I guess C2 will serve as punching bag for Lulu’s mistake. I still can’t believe Lulu sent Rolo to rescue Nunnally and expected him to succeed.

What another gift for Rolo?

Oh man C2 is going to get it…

Cry some more!

Because one of you asked: What do I think of Nina, best mad Scientist EVAR she can hump my tables any day.

This was a triumph!
I’m making a note here:
“BOOM SUCCESS!!”

It’s hard to overstate
my satisfaction.

Nina Science:
We do what we must
because we can.

For the good of all of us.
Except the ones who are dead.

But there’s no sense crying
over Lulu’s mistakes.
You just keep on trying
till you run out of cake.
And my science gets done.
And you make a neat bomb
for the people who are
still alive.

I’m not even angry…
I’m being so sincere right now-
Even though Lulu broke my heart,
and failed to kill me.

I tore Nunally to pieces.
I threw every piece into a fire.
As Nunnally burned it hurt because
I was so happy for Lulu!

Now, these points of data
make a beautiful line.
And we’re out of beta.
We’re releasing on time!
So I’m GLaD I wasn’t burned-

Think of all the things we learned-

for the people who are

still alive.

Go ahead and leave me…
I think I’d prefer to stay inside…
Maybe you’ll find someone else
to help you?
Maybe Black Knight Asahina?
That was a joke! HAHA!! FAT CHANCE!!

Anyway this revenge is great!
It’s so delicious and moist!

Look at me: still talking
when there’s science to do!
When I look out there,
it makes me GLaD I’m not you.

I’ve experiments to run.
There is research to be done.
On the people who are
still alive.
And believe me I am
still alive.
I’m doing science and I’m
still alive.
I feel fantastic and I’m
still alive.
While you’re dying I’ll be
still alive.
And when you’re dead I will be
still alive.

Still alive.

Still alive.

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69 Comments

  1. cici
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Wait, so this is how Nunally dies? A bit anti-dramatic than what I expected.

  2. Halcyon
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    This was my favorite episode of Geass. It got back to what I love about this series, twists, turns and ass-kicking action.

    The irony of a Japanese man controlled by a Western Power dropping a WMD on a Japanese City on the anniversary of a Western Power dropping a WMD on a Japanese City is pretty damn ballsy move by Sunrise (For those of you that don’t know Aug 9th was the day the Americans dropped the bomb on Nagasaki). Another ironic twist is that now Suzaku has killed more people in 1 episode than Lelouch has in 2 full seasons. Back in Episode 8, Lelouch charged Suzaku with saving the people in Japan he left behind when he went into exile. Instead, Suzaku kills off millions of both Japanese and Britannians.

    Way to go Suzaku.

    Wow! Fucking useless Ougi. He may bring people together by being a total wet noodle but he is useless in a real fight. He should know the battle plans and he’s experienced in fighting, he’s just nearly as useless as Tamaki.

    God, this cannot be MORE true. You’d think Ougi would’ve learned SOMETHING about strategy or combat after being Lelouch’s 2nd in command for almost 2 years. He’s so incompetent.


    Aaaaand another geass mindfuck that we have no explanation for -_- I want to know already dammit! Anya needs some serious geass canceling!

    If you remember, the last Geass spasm Anya had was when she came into contact with C2. In fact, all of the Geass mindspasms have been when people (Suzaku, Anya, etc) have come into contact with C2. Now that Nunnally’s out of the picture, does this lend more credibility to the theory that Anya might be Lelouch’s REAL sister? Or that Nunnally may be a clone of Charles? IT should be interesting now.

    The Emperor arrives, but Schniezel makes a sugguestion that the Emperor doesn’t really care about this battle, doesn’t care about today or reality. That means he cares about the supernatural stuff, like the World of C, so perhaps he’s going to Kaminejima in his new super flying fortress thingy.

    I don’t think the Emperor cares about the specific battle. In the last episode he was shown keeping tabs on the Sword of Akashas spread out throughout the world. It looks like he’s going to try and connect them to “slay the Gods”. The War between Britannia and Japan is just a distraction to him. In any event, Charles seems more than comfortable with letting Schneizel and Lelouch battle it out to be his true successor!


    Ugh, this doesn’t exactly bode well, although I don’t really know what some grunt whose name I didn’t even remember would have. Asahina has bee stupidly trying to rebel against Zero for a long time, and for what purpose?

    Yeah that was cheesy as hell. Some dude we’ve never seen before has uncovered a deep dark secret about Lelouch that confirms Asahina’s suspicions? How? Deus ex Machina, anyone?

    Does he think anyone else can lead the Japanese to independence? Toudou failed, Ougi failed, who else can do it? Asahina himself? Hah, fat chance. Fellow’s probably dead now though…

    Also true fact! Asahina’s been undermining Zero/Lelouch since Day One. I’m glad he’s gone. There’s no way he survived that bombing.

    It would really be irritating if this was the way Nunally died. People were predicting death by Suzaku’s geass for Nunally since the episode Lelouch put it on him, it’s way too obvious and forced irony. However, as I said before nobody in a Sunrise show is dead until you see the body, and even then there are exceptions. Nunally could have very well been ported off to the World of C or some supernatural crap, or a huge list of other plot twists that could save her and the others.

    I doubt she’s coming back to life in a ‘surprise twist’. Nunnally has only ever held Zero/Lelouch back. Now that she’s gone, Lelouch can cut loose and go all out against Britannia/Schneizel/Charles/Suzaku. If Lelouch wasn’t worried about Nunnally to begin with, they could’ve taken the Government Center with relative ease. Nunnally serves to further Lelouch’s development/descent better as a casualty of Britannia than as a hostage.

    Out of that list, those that looked the most dead and have the least reason to come back are Guilford and Asahina. Miss Rohmeier? Nobody really cares about her so dead is good. Sayoko and Millay have a bit more plot armor then those two, and of course Nunally is a hugely central character to the show. To me it seems kind of like a weak attempt to get an enraged/emo/shit-faced killer Lelouch to come out and cause problems.

    I don’t think anyone who was involved in the bright light is coming back. Milly might have escaped, since she was last seen running away from the epicenter of combat but the others, considering the destructive power of the implosion bomb, and what little screen time they had this season seem pretty dead and gone.

    Overall, a pretty powerful episode and one that will serve as a definite turning point in the series. The cast is inordinately large and was in desperate need of a culling, and this episode provided the perfect opportunity to do so. Aside from the aforementioned nuke deaths, combat claimed Luciano and some Black Knights grunt that was Asahina’s buddy. Tamaki lives though, he appears in the previews for the next episode unfortunately.

    YES YES YES. BESTO EPISODE EVER! Best scene was Kallen FACERAPING the shit out of Luciano in her brand new Gurren Seiten 8 Elements. She single-handedly owned the Valkyrie Squad, several Gareth units and TWO Knight of Rounds.

    I can’t wait to see what’s going to happen to Rolo in the next episode. I’m also curious to see what’s going to happen with Cornelia, now that her other favorite sister was nuked by her own (former) knight. Is she going back to Schneizel? Will she rebel against Charles? I also want to see how this will affect Lelouch’s inner circle.

    Lelouch is ready to go on the warpath, finally. Geass is finally kicking into high gear. STRAP IN LADS.

  3. XXX
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    The air date is actually August 10, you know.

    But still, yes, it’s close enough to that date, so the point is only slightly different in that it’s not happening ON the anniversary itself.

    The guy whose name I don’t even remember either told Asahina about what happened back in Turn 14, most likely, since it’s the same guy we saw back then (duh!). He also appeared briefly in another episode after that, in 15 or 16, and Asahina was questioning him before Rolo interrupted. So nope…there was some foreshadowing for this. Give Sunrise some credit, even for the cheese. The guy was unimportant, but he had been there for a while, with his forgettable name and all.

    The acronyms are just standard issue Engrish (sic).

    And Orange is too awesome…but never died either. In fact, they actually bothered to go out of their way and show that he didn’t die, way back in episode 10 or 11 of season one. He was already too popular, so it’s not like 2ch or what not resurrected him in a week. He had ejected even.

  4. flou
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 5:24 pm | Permalink

    Random note: The episode was originally supposed to air on August 3rd, but was bumped up because of the earthquakes in China. Also, the scripts for the series were not finalized in April, so it wasn’t like they were gunning for an air date of August 10th for the episode with FLEIA.

  5. Haesslich
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Here’s the fun part – Suzaku could have been un-Geassed during his fight with Orange-kun; they were within range of it, per the first time we saw it used (Shirley was a block or two away). If Lulu had asked Jeremiah to do it, Freia may not have been used. OOPS.

  6. jack
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    @Halcyon

    “Back in Episode 8, Lelouch charged Suzaku with saving the people in Japan he left behind when he went into exile. Instead, Suzaku kills off millions of both Japanese and Britannians.

    Way to go Suzaku.”

    Back in Episode 8, Suzaku charged Lelouch with saving the one million Japanese he was taking with him into exile. Instead, he’s using them as a (he thinks) completely loyal personal guard in his effort to conquer the world so he can make things exactly the way he thinks they should be.

    Way to go Lelouch. Lulu picked the venue and the game. On his head be it all.

    @Haesslich

    And ungeased Guliford in the bargain. Bad bargain for Lelouch, I’m thinking.

  7. Posted August 10, 2008 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    @Cici

    Indeed, there was no slow motion gunshot or falling off a cliff or any setup to it. Just nuke dead, kind of lame really.

    @Halycon

    Nunally’s death does indeed open up some interesting possibilities on that front, of Anya being the real sister or clone or some such thing. But don’t doubt that Sunrise would bring back a character from the dead, they have done it time and time again. Think of all the masked characters or surprise reappearances.

    Cornelia is going to go gaga over Schniezel from what it looks from the preview. Also remember how rabu rabu she was over him last season, she apparently does not see him for what he truly is. Unfortunate, but true. Perhaps she will cooperate with him to take down the Emperor rather than with Lulu as I had thought previously.

    @XXX

    Yeah I got myself mixed up when I first wrote it, I fixed it like 15-20 minutes after I posted it. And I vaguely remember the guy you are talking about, but I just find it silly that some random grunt whose name nobody can remember will help sway the Black Knights from Lelouch.

    I was referring to his apparent death at the end of season one when he fought with C.C., not earlier than that. From what I gather he was brought back as a significant character in season 2 because of popularity from sites, especially 2ch.

    @Flou

    If they delayed an episode for Chinese earthquakes in which said episode had no earthquakes, I wouldn’t put it past them to delay an episode with a nuke dropping on Japan the day after the Nagasaki anniversary. Regardless, it’s something to point out and consider, Sunrise has made political statements in the past through their works.

    @Haesslich

    It could have, but we don’t really know the max range of the Canceler, he’s only used it in maybe a 20-30 foot radius. KMFs are very very large and the distance may be too great for him to use it, especially with the machines moving so fast.

    @Jack

    Leading soldiers in a fight to liberate their country (even if it’s not his ultimate objective it is a side effect) is different then dropping a nuke and killing 10 million of them.

  8. jack
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    @Calawain

    Lelouch is liberating Japan in the sense that Napolean liberated Poland. He ain’t, and people that don’t buy into his cult of personality will see that mighty quick once they get access to the information on what the hell is going on there. I’m looking forward to a subcontinent sized game of good ‘ole “Smear the Queer”, and Lulu’s a bit of a swish.

    Suzaku dropped the nuke under the effects of irresistable mind-control, his conscious preference was to sooner die, he put his money where his mouth was on that, and the context was fighting tooth and nail to keep a megalomanical demagogue from getting his hands on his country and turning it into so much cannon-fodder. Also, he succeeded.

  9. XXX
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Calawain : I don’t think so, because that popularity bit, in all versions I had heard of until now, only referred to his not being killed by Kallen near mid-season one (and we saw him eject, so the change from the original plan had already been made).

    Not to his return in season two. C.C. survived that and Orange was already some sort of cyborg created through Geass-related experiments, so it’s not like there was much of a basis to consider him dead. I never did, and don’t see why 2ch would. But well, you’re free to think differently, of course, though it’s clear that his role was expanded because of said popularity.

    Finally…for different reasons (she is too important), I am not convinced, at all, that Nunnally is dead. I have no idea about how she survived, but this isn’t going to be the last we see or hear of her, even if not for a couple of episodes at least.

  10. EvilDevil
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Nunnally is dead!!! *cries*
    stupid Lulu, stupid geass!!
    i hope the black knights learn the truth and kill lulu!!!

  11. Ominae
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    If Nuna-chan’s dead by next episode or what, then Lulu’s gonna go Raging Raven on him! XP

  12. Halcyon
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 6:45 pm | Permalink

    @jack

    Back in Episode 8, Suzaku charged Lelouch with saving the one million Japanese he was taking with him into exile. Instead, he’s using them as a (he thinks) completely loyal personal guard in his effort to conquer the world so he can make things exactly the way he thinks they should be.

    Way to go Lelouch. Lulu picked the venue and the game. On his head be it all.

    Uhh, last I checked there are still 1 Million people on that island alive and well thanks to Lelouch/Zero as opposed to the millions dead thanks to Suzaku/Freia.

    Lelouch – 1
    Suzaku – 0

    Additionally, Suzaku already knew he was Geass’d to “Live” as was evident in the last episode when Suzaku asked Lelouch why did he Geass him. If he really didn’t want to use Freia (as he alluded to in the episode), he could’ve disabled it before things got out of hand.

    @Calawain

    Nunally’s death does indeed open up some interesting possibilities on that front, of Anya being the real sister or clone or some such thing. But don’t doubt that Sunrise would bring back a character from the dead, they have done it time and time again. Think of all the masked characters or surprise reappearances.

    Ehh. I just don’t see why they would need to bring her back. From the ep summaries posted it doesn’t seem they’ll touch on that subject til Ep 23 at the earliest and even then, they should really be setting up the climax of the series. Judging from the way the first season ended, I don’t think Sunrise is going to do a “It was all a dream!11! Surprise! Everyone’s alive” ending.

    I mean, they could, but that would royally piss off the fanbase. And I much prefer the idea of Anya being Lelouch’s sister than Nunnally. Anya looks more like Marianne than Nunnally does (at least the younger version of Marianne).

    Cornelia is going to go gaga over Schniezel from what it looks from the preview. Also remember how rabu rabu she was over him last season, she apparently does not see him for what he truly is. Unfortunate, but true. Perhaps she will cooperate with him to take down the Emperor rather than with Lulu as I had thought previously.

    We’ll have to wait and see. IDK but having a blind, crippled sister being blown away by her allies/empire may sway her allegiance, even if it’s just a tiny bit.

    It is interesting that Sunrise has setup a 3way power struggle between Lelouch, Schneizel and Charles.

  13. cj
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

    1st Either Nunnally isn’t dead and somehow survived by Sayoko magical ninja skills (I didn’t know ninjas could survive atomic bomb, if this be the case it’s sad that all japanese aren’t ninjas like all Americans think)Or like many of you have said Anya is Lelouch’s real sister so Lelouch will forget all about Nunally and go rabu rabu for Anya *insert what a twist here*

    2nd Orange kun is cool and that’s the only reason he’s still in the show period. It would’ve been really easy to just drown him in the end of season 1 (c.c. can’t drown hurray for inmortality) but character support brought him back I mean what would Code geass be without OOOOOOOOOOOORAAAAANGEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    3rd Why is Nina still alive? kill the bitch already I’m sick of her
    (Also on a note of people who should be dead Tamaki? he’s a waste of screen time he’s just lucky some guy in Sunrise thinks him to be important in which case Tamaki will be the next one to kill someone soon and someone important otherwise the guy *insert random name here* who died and told Asahina the big news is more important and had like 1/6 of the screen time he’s had

    4th Calawain looks like Cornelia has escaped and has no plans to join Zero instead looking happy too see Shneizel =(

    5th Hey Crusader can you tell me what you think of Nina for some reason I don’t remember you saying she’s crazy even once, I know you’ll all rabu rabu for Britania but really even someone like you has to admit that Bitch is crazy.

    6th How the hell did Suzaku escape I mean Guren’s upgrade makes it like extra friggin fast and Lancelot was fagged up soooo I’m guessing shiny atomic light must’ve been very distracting.

    7th Wow this lelouch must be emo level to the extreme I wouldn’t be surprised if they caught him cutting his wrists next episode maybe even hanging himself *dun dun dun* of course he can’t there’s still 6 episodes left maybe 7 not sure.

  14. Posted August 10, 2008 at 6:59 pm | Permalink

    Lelouch is all f***ed up… hahaha… serves him right. He should’ve listened to Suzaku after all. Now look at what happened. Anyhow, I’m really surprised that Suzaku still has that Geass command to him. LIVE ON!

    crap… what about Rolo? Well, his wishes are fulfilled. Hono-Lulu is all for him now.

    UFN maybe well get doomed in the end.

    thanks for the review.
    :D

  15. cj
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    I can’t believe I forgot how awsome Kallen was GOOOOO!!! KALLEN <3

  16. Onizuka
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    well the moment i was waiting for all this time did not happen in this ep but thanx to Calawain for the link of the extended preview i know it happen next episode

    Kallen getting the improved Gurren and killing the vampire wannabe and almost killing Bombzaku making her return to the front lines awesome

    i always wondered where will Sayoko and Kaguya hime will stand on the issue of zero’s true identity getting exposed i guess this ep answers half of that sice supermeido is “supposedly” dead “fat chance” and Kaguya is still at sea somewhere my guess is the the Ootbk will keep her in the dark on this matter

    no matter how strongly i support OhgiXVilleta faction i can truly say that Ohgi is no leader and this supposedly is the guy to lead the Ootbk when they go mutiny on zero well all i can say is good luck your fates are already sealed

    things to look out for next week
    1. Kallen’s decision
    2. Bombzaku realizing what he did

  17. Posted August 10, 2008 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Considering the amount of “WTF?!”-ness that this Episode has generated very early, I’m surprised. (Granted, Season 1′s “WTF?!” moment came towards the end of the season, like Ep. 21[?], so I’m expecting an end to the whole Code Geass franchise here, it seems…[?])

    In regards to the potential political statement Sunrise seems to subtly deliver, I take it as a “So, what?” A lot of people had already commented that due to changes in scheduling it wasn’t as if Sunrise were deliberately trying to make a statement. Also, I’d be damned if Sunrise were to teach the audience a thing or two about pacifism.

    But I dig it. There’s a lot of cheese and vodka going on around here. No amount of emo facial contortions can reverse the fact that Zero/Lulouch made very stupid decisions, and hopefully the show ends with a massive cliffhanger to give the rest of the world big “F— Yeah!”

  18. Eirias
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    I think this entire series has been a directed, systematic destruction of all of the things that Charles feels would hold Lelouch back. Every support system, every friend he truly cared about… gone. He is almost set to become like Charles.

    What would you think, Crusader, if Lelouch subsumes Charles’ existence as Emperor, keeper of the Hax Brittan(i)a.

  19. cj
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    A thing I just noticed rewatching the episode when kallen’s magical fist of doom is flying around destroying everything Bradley grabs a random KNF and throws it in the way LOLZ

  20. SlothMaster
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Calawain, I TOLD you Rolo would want to kill Nunnaly. Unfortunately he got beat to the punch by Genocide-zaku’s Freyja … too bad … his Jesus plotarmor was nearly defeated by Kallen’s new ride :( ( Nina isn’t even going to be happy about it ’cause Zero is still alive. Oh well, time for an emo/betrayal episode… Betrayal is the name for the next episode, no ?
    BTW … has anybody noticed Sunrise hinting at a KallenXGino thing??? I hope I’m wrong but her expresion changes weirdly when he’s talking….

  21. Narrator 1
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 7:49 pm | Permalink

    (note nobody is ever dead in a Sunrise show until you see the body)

    Charles di Britannia would beg to differ there.

  22. Posted August 10, 2008 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

    @Jack

    Huh? Napoleon took his national foreign army and invaded Poland, Lelouch is leading the Japanese to take back Japan. Then he’s just going to let them have it, he doesn’t have interest in ruling over them.

    @XXX

    To be honest I can’t say with certainty what the chain of events was since I don’t speak enough Japanese to browse 2ch. I think we can both agree that such popularity had some effect on his character, whether it was bringing him back from the dead or merely giving his character a larger role.

    @EvilDevil

    They will learn the truth, and try to capture him to sell him off to Schniezel rather than just kill him. Schniezel is paying them a visit next episode according to the previews, so that would be the most likely outcome.

    @Halcyon

    I don’t think bringing her back would piss off the fanbase, just make them roll their eyes going “oh there goes Sunrise again.” As for Cornelia, if she smartly figured out Schniezel was behind the whole thing she might gravitate toward Lulu, assuming he stabilizes his mentality after Nunally’s death.

    @CJ

    suzaku has huge plot armor not seen since the days of Kira “Jesus” Yamato. That’s why he will survive~

    @Rollchan

    Yeah but Lulu nii-san is pretty pissed off at Rollo, I don’t think it’s going to be a big happy family for the two of them.

    @Onizuka

    Uh Sayoko knows his real identity, and even revealing geass to her is unlikely to change her mind. Of course that assumes she survives the nuke, which is in doubt. Kaguya I’m still not sure about, she didn’t appear at all this episode, and we talked about how unsure we were about her allegiance last episode’s discussion.

    @TP

    I don’t predict a cliffhanger, Taniguchi already finished writing the ending, and he said no way there’s going to be a season 3. It’s done, caput, finished, so I expect a solid ending. I wouldn’t rule out extra OVAs or movies for side stuff, but the main story will come to a good conclusion.

    @Eirias

    It’s not only stuff Charles would feel holds Lelouch back, it’s anyone who knows him. I think Charles right now is much more concerned about the supernatural stuff and is done with his son, who he already got C.C.’s code from.

  23. Ryuua
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Oh Wtf? Whats with Suzaku firing at the government building to “Live On”? It makes no sense. ” Lets go bomb my allies instead of the giant KMFs in front of me”

  24. cj
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    @Calawain
    True Suzaku’s plot armor is indesctructible or strong enough to get him into the last 2 episodes

    Dam it after each episode of Code Geass I just want to see the next one but that just means getting closer to the end T-T

    @Ryuua
    Lol good point how is shooting randomly in the air live on, they just had to make a way for Suzaku’s geass to cause major chaos (still don’t belive nunally’s dead though).

  25. Halcyon
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

    @Calawain

    I suspect Taniguchi will wind up trying to pull a Hideki Anno and leave Geass with some retarded open-ended conclusion that doesn’t really resolve anything and leaves the “ending” up to the viewer’s interpretation.

  26. lelangir
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Kallen was awesome but Orange-kun had even more awesome.

  27. XXX
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Calawain: Agreed then.

    Halcyon: What I’ve seen of Taniguchi’s work doesn’t support that conclusion very much.

    Maybe there will be a few subplots that won’t be resolved, but I do think the main plot, the major subplots and the fates of the main characters will get some closure and the ending won’t leave the overall story hanging.

  28. westrim
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    Well gee, Luciano’s dead. Now that’s just a damn shame (not). But so’s Guilford, which IS a shame (Lemon-kun!). But most importantly:
    Flunkie: Mindf**k cannnon ready to fire, captain.
    Capatain: Very well, commence fire on target #1.
    Suzaku: No! Instead of dying and finally getting the hell out of the way, I must BLOW UP TOKYO!!! (as though we weren’t already expecting that).

    HAHA! As if that jerk Suzaku didn’t have enough on his chest already, now he’s committed a little mass slaughter- but no biggie, I’m sure the Euphienator would approve.

    Every time I see someone note his ‘live’ geass, I think its along the lines of “Live from New York, it’s Saturday Night!”. Which would be pretty damn funny, if he broke out into comedy skits every time it activated.

  29. Eirias
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 11:12 pm | Permalink

    Kira “Jesus” Yamato. I’d forgotten just how much I disliked him. Good times.

  30. ans
    Posted August 10, 2008 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    Nina’s a racist because she got scared by some Elevens who were thugs when she was little. I’m pretty sure she had a flashback in the last season that showed this.

  31. Posted August 10, 2008 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    If they bring Nunally back through some supernatural crap, I’ll just be pissed off. It’s actually a great plot advancement (we’ve finally gotton away from Lulu focusing on her) and mybe now things’ll REALLY get going.

  32. Miran
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 12:12 am | Permalink

    It’s probably enough for plot advancement for all parties involved to believe that Nunnally is dead, regardless of her actual status. The non-confirmable (by anime standards) “death” by the bomb may well have saved her from Rolo (the stupidest idea Lelouch has ever had, including “hey if I ordered you to kill Japanese”).

    After Euphemia, Darlton, and Guilford, I hope the series ends with Cornelia beating Lelouch senseless with a shovel.

  33. Posted August 11, 2008 at 1:34 am | Permalink

    “Airdate of this episode, August 10, 2008…Nagasaki a-bomb dropped, August 9, 1945″

    Ha! nice observation!

  34. Ominae
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 2:14 am | Permalink

    @ans
    - Was there? I probably didn’t notice.

    Anyway:

    Lulu: Rage! (Throws Rolo’s mobile on the ground.) Show me your rage!

  35. Coaxen
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 2:15 am | Permalink

    Zetsubou shita! Cry me a river, mutt.
    Well, if Rolo, they guy who cannot defy physics(as mentioned earlier) survived, then MAYBE our l33t ninja Sayoko and Nunnally are still alive. Just maybe.

    For the time being, let me shed a tear for the lack of Nunnally and the huge plot-assfuck for the Black Knights. They should really win, you know.

    Another think

  36. Posted August 11, 2008 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    I AM NINA, I DROP BOMBS LIKE HIROSHIMA?

  37. cj
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    @Calawain
    “I can’t wait until you get your new space mecha that’s shown in the OP.” I’m sorry to tell you but if you look closely at this mecha and the one in the op they’re the same it’s just that in the op it has no colors so that the viewer couldn’t tell it was going to be Orange-kun’s

    @Crusader
    I see so you do want to have little table children with Nina and create a nuclear holocaust, that would be fun because all tactics and even mecha deus ex machinima would go down the toilet the rest of the show would be Zero and whatever he will call his new army considering the black knights are about to abandon him and britania just bombing the hell out of each other with a bomb that’s worse than an atomic bomb.

  38. Halcyon
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    HAHAHAH I just checked the Geass official website and Milly’s the only one of the “victims” not listed as “missing”. Her giant rack must’ve protected her from FLEIA by absorbing the shock of the impact. LOLOLOL

    Shirley’s been permanently deleted from the correlative tho :(

    The only one really listed as “dead” is Luciano, Knight of 10. IDK how the Glaston Knights arent listed as “dead” when Kallen was owning the shit out of every mech in the air at that time.

    lol Poor Rivals looks so ronery being the only one at Ashford now. Maybe he can console himself with Miya.

    Still waiting on the remaining 2 female Knight of Rounds to make an appearance. Maybe with Cornelia returning to Britannia next week one of them might rear their bishoujo heads for some yuri fanservice.

  39. skoll
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    Schniezel is a cunt. What the fuck was up with that snarky smile after the Britannian headquarters building, primarily quartered by…. Britannians got vaporized.

    As another note, the FREIA detonation produced a vacuum aftereffect that was shockingly similar to the Xam’d Humanform Weapon vacuum lasers. I wonder if that kind of energy weapon suddenly got popular or something.

  40. Posted August 11, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    @cj
    There are no tactics in Geass, R1 had a smattering but if you consider beam spam and “I have new suit hax” as tactics then you are a tosser. Worse than the atomic bomb you say? Well shit you hardly know anything about why atomic bombs are bad. You see anything with in a certain radius dies, instantly vaporized, but those on the outskirts they get something called radiation sickness and have all sort of nasty burns, terminal illnesses, and if pregnant might get still birth or irradiated infants with all sorts of interesting new features. Nina’s little weapon killed everything nearly instantly there was not long term effects other than the crater. Hell there isn’t any fall out that is carried over distances by the wind. Nina’s weapon is a vacuum bomb it is incapable of causing the long term death that is a nuclear winter.

    So before you mouth off about it being worse do some research you beforehand otherwise you just made its sound as if a bunch of fictional characters had it worse that the poor bastards who survived the real blast. The cast is too large as it is since no one is Ali-class we need huge explosions to cull the useless.

    Such ignorance about the bomb and military principles these days is appalling to say the least don’t they teach you anything at school anymore or is it just day care and play time these days?

  41. Posted August 11, 2008 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    But there’s no sense crying over every big mess,
    I’ll just keep on humping till I run out of desks.

    If it was up to Nina, she’d start launching FLEIA warheads all over the place so that she could feel superior to all foreigners. I am ready for Nina to fall in love again with a girl, only to find out that the girl is half-Japanese (e.g. Kallen). That or she will hump a bamboo table only to find out that the bamboo was grown in Japan ZOMG!

  42. Goob
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Calawain, you made a HUGE mistake.

    The Tokyo Settlement is populated mainly by Britannians, not Elevens (as evident by the fact that Area 11′s Britannian government is practically set up there), so Suzaku managed to kill millions of Britannians and maybe a good chunk of the blue collar labor force (elevens) there. There is no irony other than the sad unfortunate chain reaction that started with Lelouch geassing him to live.

    Suzaku won’t even remember nuking Tokyo.

    @Halycon
    “Uhh, last I checked there are still 1 Million people on that island alive and well thanks to Lelouch/Zero as opposed to the millions dead thanks to Suzaku/Freia.”

    Blaming Suzaku for the millions dead is RIDICULOUS. He was under the control of the geass, which practically means it’s Lelouch’s fault. Don’t make up some BS excuse that “he could have disabled it” to circumvent that. This isn’t what Sunrise wants you to think, otherwise the situation wouldn’t be full of irony and reminiscent of Lelouch geassing Euphemia. Or are you sick enough to blame Euphemia for what happened?

    This whole thing is Lelouch’s fault, though granted, if he hadn’t geassed Suzaku, he wouldn’t even be alive. So technically, it’s an incredibly unfortunate event.

  43. Halcyon
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    @Goob

    Blaming Suzaku for the millions dead is RIDICULOUS. He was under the control of the geass, which practically means it’s Lelouch’s fault. Don’t make up some BS excuse that “he could have disabled it” to circumvent that. This isn’t what Sunrise wants you to think, otherwise the situation wouldn’t be full of irony and reminiscent of Lelouch geassing Euphemia. Or are you sick enough to blame Euphemia for what happened?

    This is very different from the incident with Euphemia. Lelouch had ACTUALLY Geass’d Euphemia to kill the Japanese. The only effect the Geass had on Suzaku was to “live on”, not to “kill millions of Japanese AND Britannians”.

    Suzaku could’ve accomplished that in one of three ways:

    1. Eject his cockpit. There was no damage shown to his cockpit, in fact, he still was able to maneuver AROUND Kallen’s Gurren and aim DIRECTLY at the Government Center. If he wanted to “live on” he should’ve aimed straight ahead at Lelouch’s forces, instead of his own.

    2. Run away! This worked fabulously in Season One when Suzaku had Lelouch at Gunpoint and Lelouch first applied the Geass. His Lancelot was rendered immobile and because of the oncoming bombardment from Britannia, what did Suzaku do to satisfy the conditions of his Geass control? He ran away.

    3. Surrender! While Lelouch is all for eliminating his threats, I don’t think Kallen would’ve fried him with her radioactive arm if he offered to surrender, considering the shape his Lancelot was in this could’ve been an effective strategy.

    The fact of the matter is Suzaku wanted to die. This is not the first time we’ve seen Suzaku try to martyr himself to atone for his past sins. Suzaku was also aware of the fact that he had been Geass’d to live. His said as much in the last episode, asking Lelouch why Lelouch Geass’d him.

    Again, he didn’t have to kill ANYONE in order to “live on”, there were alternatives to satisfy his Geass’d command other than wiping out a large chunk of his own forces and innocent civilians.

    This whole thing is Lelouch’s fault, though granted, if he hadn’t geassed Suzaku, he wouldn’t even be alive. So technically, it’s an incredibly unfortunate event.

    Lelouch didn’t pull the trigger on an atomic bomb. Again, Lelouch’s only command was for Suzaku to live. Lelouch didn’t compel Suzaku to kill. Suzaku chose that route all on his own. Suzaku knew the destructive power of the bomb beforehand. He tried to use the power of the bomb to intimidate Lelouch earlier on in the battle, only to be ignored by Lelouch as a liar and a traitor (which Suzaku is). Nina was egging Suzaku on during the entire battle to PUSH THE BUTTON!!!!! because “it can save you!!!” so that must have been in his subconscious at the time he actually fired.

    So, you can’t blame Lelouch’s “live” Geass for spurring Suzaku to kill his own people. Where’s the logic in that? “Oh, I have to live and the only way to do that is to wipe out the building I’m protecting along with the majority of my allies defending the building”.

    It’s more ironic that Suzaku has posed a greater danger to his allies than Lelouch/Zero did and that the supposed “protector” of Nunnally and the Japanese became their eventual murderor. Of course, this comes as no surprise to those of us who have known that Suzaku was a murdering scumbag from the onset of Geass, since he killed his own dad and joined the enemy of the Japanese.

  44. bearzerger
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Of course Suzaku has part of the blame. He knows that he’s under a Geass, so he should have fled like Lloyd told him once he realised Kallen’s superiority. Instead he wanted to commit suicide out of sheer stupidity.
    Naturally Lelouche is hardly innocent and a big part of the blame also goes to Nina and Schneizel. Those four are the ones responsible for the F-bomb. One built it, the other bought it, the next aimed the gun and the last pulled the trigger. They are all equally guilty.
    BTW did you guys see those specs of the F-Bomb? Three zones of destruction. The blast kills everything within 1500m, the slipstream pulls in everything inside of 3km and a third zone which isn’t explained further but which reaches up to 5-8km. That’s even more ridiculous than Gurren Seiten’s abilities.

  45. Posted August 11, 2008 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    @Ryuua

    A weapon like that requires little aim, he just knew in order to live he had to fire it somewhere nearby to blow up all of the attackers.

    @Halcyon

    I really don’t think so, like XXX mentions, if you go to Wikipedia and look up Taniguchi and Ichiro Okouchi (they came up with the story together, and Okouchi is the head writer), you will find that the works which they had lead roles on were not left up in the air like that, or with mindfuck Anno endings.

    @Eirias

    My apologies for bringing up bad memories ;)

    @Ans

    That’s possible, but I don’t recall it. One day the season 1 DVDs I ordered will arrive and I’ll rewatch the first season, then I may pick it out~

    @Miran

    You can join Crusader in that wish, although I’m sure his version would be much more violent and bloody.

    @Coaxen

    Do not underestimate the hax of the Shinozaki ninja clan! I hope she survives, this show needs supameido =(

    @C.I.

    I admit, I laughed.

    @CJ

    Mmmmmm they do look pretty similar. Well, I can’t wait until he goes in space and starts kicking ass, how about that? =)

    @Halcyon

    Yeah I saw that today, all the people who are shown getting nuked are listed as “missing.” Also, if you look really close at the Engrish of the FREIA status screen, it says something like step 5- Sessrumnir Sphere Reduction and Vanished (Space Transfer). So don’t be surprised if those “missing” somehow survive and are just somewhere else.

    Millay I had just guessed at because I saw her running around in Tokyo and then soon after the bomb went off. She wasn’t shown in the explosion scene though.

    @Skoll

    Schniezel is a nasty guy who smiles when he first meets you while plotting the best way to use you and get rid of you. He’s shaping up to be a harsh villain to deal with.

    @Kabitzin

    You have one twisted mind, I like it.

    @Goob

    Ummm, no I don’t think so. If you look at all of the shots in and around Tokyo through both season the area is predominately populated by Japanese rather than Brittanians. Sure, there are quite a few of them there, but they don’t move 10 million Britannians into Tokyo in just 8 years, it’s mostly Japanese.

    @Bearzerger

    I don’t think there is any one person to blame for the bomb going off either. As you mention, many different characters had their hand in it.

  46. Halcyon
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

    @Calawain

    I really don’t think so, like XXX mentions, if you go to Wikipedia and look up Taniguchi and Ichiro Okouchi (they came up with the story together, and Okouchi is the head writer), you will find that the works which they had lead roles on were not left up in the air like that, or with mindfuck Anno endings.

    I definitely wouldn’t rule it out. Primarily, because at this point the only way to bring those “missing” characters back would be through a WTF plothax involving the Sword of Akasha or Ragnarok and that would be ridiculously cheesy even for Code Geass.

    If they’ve been teleported anywhere it’s been to Planet Cybertron as Cybertron is one of the planets shown in the OP with the Geass Cult. I predict an epic battle between the Autobots and Black Knights vs Britannia and the Decepticons.

    Lelouch uses his Geass in Conjunction with the Autobot Matrix of Leadership for a wtfhax victory over Charles and Schneizel. Both sides abandon their stupid KnightMare Frames to become HeadMasters. Lelouch becomes Zero Prime and Charles becomes Charles vi Megatronnia. Schneizel merges with Starscream to become Schneizelscream.

  47. cj
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    Dam english dubs to hell, I convinced a friend to watch code geass and he’s watching the dubs of the first season to wait for season 2 to be over (he doesn’t want to wait a week for each episode instead watch them all in a marathon) well point is that I watched the episode when C.C. killed Mao and she says “wait for me in the world of C” Now I’m too lazy too look up what she said in the japanese but if it’s the same thing that means that people who die go to the world of C? so maybe Nunally still lives and she’s just trapped there or maybe dubs suck the wolrd will have to wait untill someone is responsible enough to look it up, I’m too lazy good luck.

    @Halycon
    Lol That be unfair transformers don’t have WMD’S so nina would just nuke their asses and end of story XP unless merging with Charles and Shneizel and Lelouch also gave them their plot armor and allowed them to escape. Just like Rolo who should’ve been in Freias blast radius but his plot armor allowed him to make a sutherland fly faster than ever before DEATH TO ROLO!!!!!!!

  48. jack
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    With the glorious deatomization of the thong-wearing meido supercommando, Code Geass is Serious Business can be put into effect allowing among other things the education of the ignorant and the making of posts that can be summerized as “is not!” in answer to “is too!”, as well as adopting tones of unwarrented beligerancy. To hell with syntax and spellchecking.

    @Calawain

    The Grand Duchy of Warsaw. The Second and Third Partitions of Poland. One suspects that fact that there can be even glimmers of good feeling for Lulu at this point is enough of the audience are about as forarmed to his ways as a Han peasent was to the Little Red Book. I blame the gumb’nint.

    In 1806 there was a popular uprising in the country that had been previously been made to cease to exist by its imperial neighbors, gaurenteed by at the time internationally recognized friend of the common man, human dignity, free nations everywhere and the concept of universal manhood sufferage to whom the Lives of Millions are So Much Shit (phrase trademarked by Napoleon Bonaparte), Napoleon Bonaparte. It brought a tear to many an eye to see the triumph of the human spirit in such form as a country rising against all odds from the the ashes and oblivion itself, but the cruel reality recognized in hindsight was their liberator was a monster solipsist possessing fathomless ambition and his only interest in their self determination was that they enthusiastically served his own ends of their own volition with the propper amount of behind the scenes tweaking and his only interest in their hapiness was their graditude made them more willing battlefodder less likely to question his will. And battles did they feed. And battles did they feed (twice for effect).

    @Halcyon

    He freaking filled out his army with them and uses the rest of them as a totally secure base of operations and manpower pool!

    Sunrise deigned to show us a man psyching himself up to die, with grit, determination, and actively trying to convince his subconscious that this was good and proper and served his best interests, that the digusting compulsion forced on him by the moral dwarf with beliefs as small and pathetic as that honor is a lie for fools and the greatest end is your own continued existence could be overcome. Euphie had delayed the Geass on her so that they could share their last moments together and indeed all he had to do was hold it off a few moments for Kallen to stop showboating and end it already. A man who goes into battle speaking of requiring moral courage as well as physical to be an effective soldier. Truely the freya was best entrusted to him, magic mindcontrol and all because with him there remained a chance it would not be used against the certainty it would be should it be left in Britannian hands or fall into Lulus. Any simple code to disable could be simply re-enabled nor could he let it out of his sight lest less morally-upright mere warriors (which is to say, every-freaking-body else there not a pudding eating earl and his lovely assistant) set their victory-blinded eyes upon it and put it into their hands. Alas he did not prevail, but at least he probably won’t take what he sees as his failure to surmount the insurmountable out on the little people that are utterly emotionally dependant on him.

    To suggest such a man would take an avenue of survival that caused the deaths of millions when magically forced to take an avenue of survival while other methods were available is ludicrous, ludicrous and dishonest that he could run from Revolutionary Guard-chan and not be cut down or survive ejection and not be blasted helpless or surrender and not be killed for the attempt indeed Lulu was gleefully during the battle spamming his forces to kill Kururugi Suzaku with steadily increasing tones of derangement that he and his sisters love would suffer no further obstacles oh how I wish I was making that up and yet I am not. Truely Halcyon your lawyerly ways had gotten the best of you and made you a soldier of The Lie, Yazatas have mercy upon you. You are also a monday morning quarterback and the Great Lombardi will curse you with visions, see if he doesn’t.

  49. Halcyon
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    @jack

    He freaking filled out his army with them and uses the rest of them as a totally secure base of operations and manpower pool!

    Really? You’ve seen 1 Million people aboard the Ikaruga have you? Because I assure you, his “army” is not 1 Million Strong. His “Army” at best may be a couple of thousand. Lelouch does not have the resources or the command structure to mobilize one million troops on his own. Hence why he set up strategic allegiances with the Chinese Federation and the EU via the UFN.

    Sunrise deigned to show us a man psyching himself up to die, with grit, determination, and actively trying to convince his subconscious that this was good and proper and served his best interests, that the digusting compulsion forced on him by the moral dwarf with beliefs as small and pathetic as that honor is a lie for fools and the greatest end is your own continued existence could be overcome.

    This is patently false. It’s been discussed in Season One, that the entire reason for Suzaku’s “selflessness” is subconscious guilt from murdering his father. Suzaku’s “morality” is nothing more than an idealistic way for him to escape the reality of being a cold-blooded murderer.

    With this latest development, Suzaku will be unable to run from away from his sins by attempting to die vaingloriously on the battlefield. As shown on the extended preview, Suzaku will be just as emotionally broken/devastated as Lelouch which is a delicious parallel.

    Euphie had delayed the Geass on her so that they could share their last moments together and indeed all he had to do was hold it off a few moments for Kallen to stop showboating and end it already.

    Euphie had delayed Geass because deep down her true nature contradicted her Geass Order. Euphie was a pacifist and she was struggling against her Geass to the very end. Suzaku’s Geass was to “Live on”, self-preservation is a basic instinct of all animals, and he had no real true inner nature to contradict his Geass command. Hence, he took the course that he felt would fulfill his Geass command: Kill everyone else in order to live on.

    Delicious Irony? Yes, especially coming from the White Knight: Suzaku. Who, by now, has earned his Season One nickname of the “White Reaper”.

    A man who goes into battle speaking of requiring moral courage as well as physical to be an effective soldier. Truely the freya was best entrusted to him, magic mindcontrol and all because with him there remained a chance it would not be used against the certainty it would be should it be left in Britannian hands or fall into Lulus. Any simple code to disable could be simply re-enabled nor could he let it out of his sight lest less morally-upright mere warriors (which is to say, every-freaking-body else there not a pudding eating earl and his lovely assistant) set their victory-blinded eyes upon it and put it into their hands. Alas he did not prevail, but at least he probably won’t take what he sees as his failure to surmount the insurmountable out on the little people that are utterly emotionally dependant on him.

    Suzaku was not mentally prepared to handle the responsibility of handling the FLEIA. Truly, last episode he was more than ready to make-up with Lelouch until Kanon came in with the Gestapo to arrest him. It was irresponsible to send someone who is already psychologically damaged and emotionally frayed into battle against his former best friend armed with a WMD. Furthermore, even without a “cancel code”, Suzaku could’ve smashed the controls to prevent him from launching FLEIA.

    Your ability to rationalize away Suzaku’s blatant perpetration of mass murder is awe-inspiring.

    To suggest such a man would take an avenue of survival that caused the deaths of millions when magically forced to take an avenue of survival while other methods were available is ludicrous, ludicrous and dishonest that he could run from Revolutionary Guard-chan and not be cut down or survive ejection and not be blasted helpless or surrender and not be killed for the attempt indeed Lulu was gleefully during the battle spamming his forces to kill Kururugi Suzaku with steadily increasing tones of derangement that he and his sisters love would suffer no further obstacles oh how I wish I was making that up and yet I am not.

    Suzaku was not alone on the battlefield. If he wanted to withdraw(as he had been advised to earlier by Lloyd and Cecile), he could’ve requested backup from the Gareth forces, the Mordred, or the Tristan which could’ve disengaged from his battle with the Seigfreid to assist in recovering Suzaku’s cockpit (if ejecting the cockpit was his chosen alternative).

    I believe, what led Suzaku to choosing to detonate a bomb (in the direction of his own base lolnice aiming Suzaku) was Nina’s last minute advice that using the “FLEIA” would “save him”.

    But again, Lelouch’s only command was for Suzaku to live, not to murder millions of people. You can’t extrapolate a “live” command, into “kill tons of people” and lay the blame at Lelouch’s feet for HOW Suzaku chose to live, because ultimately it was a choice by Suzaku.

    Furthermore, I’m not sure why you find it so unbelievable that a man who murdered his own father in cold-blood would be able to murder others he is completely unrelated to.

    Truely Halcyon your lawyerly ways had gotten the best of you and made you a soldier of The Lie, Yazatas have mercy upon you. You are also a monday morning quarterback and the Great Lombardi will curse you with visions, see if he doesn’t.

    Here is a fact you cannot escape:

    Suzaku has now murdered (that’s right, murdered as in willfully and intentionally using a weapon of mass destruction) more innocent civilians and Britannian forces than Lelouch has in two Seasons.

    This is irrefutable. You can try to spin events all you want but ultimate responsibility lies in the man who AIMED and pulled the trigger. No matter what kind of “Nuremburg Defense” you might use it does not absolve personal responsibility on the battlefield.

    Euphie was able to resist her Geass Command (to an extent) because she found it apalling. Suzaku should have had the same fortitude, but apparently, killing millions of people wasn’t all that abhorrent to Suzaku that he, you know, might’ve struggled, just a little bit, when pulling that trigger.

  50. Halcyon
    Posted August 11, 2008 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    @cj

    Rolo has been deathflagged since Lelouch got his memories back. There’s no way he’s going to survive to the end.

    Both V.V. and Lelouch have deathflagged Rolo in Turn 14: Geass Hunt. His plot armor is as thin as Shirley’s.

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