Code Geass R2, Episode 22- Emperor Lelouch


And across the world, there was a great thump as the world of otaku collectively facepalmed.

Well, if last week was a drop into the silly bucket, this week was a rainstorm. At least last week I laughed through most of it. Unfortunately, I spent most of this episode rolling my eyes or finding minor amusement in quick character death. Maybe the cliffhanger would have gotten me if it hadn’t really been spoiled or if this wasn’t a Sunrise show, but alas my previous adage holds true.

I did find this part extremely amusing. I’m always up for the addition of meido to the cast, especially when it’s irritating and completely useless royal characters who get knocked down a few pegs. However, this does not make them good meido, just ones that are great to laugh at.

Most likely absolutely nothing for awhile, just like you’ve done for the past several episodes. The OotBK has been reduced to side characters in this show unfortunately. And although it was kind of neat that Lelouch is “freeing” Brittania, it’s not exactly for the most charitable of purposes.

Interesting to see these two working under Lelouch now, but I guess they like working with Suzaku, or really like the Lancelot. However, I don’t really see Lloyd and Cecile as just blind scientists following them around for kicks. Both of them (even Lloyd) display some pretty amazing insight and awareness of what’s going on around them and in the world.

So let me get this straight, the scientist who created the weapon is being chased all over, but everyone is cool with the guy who actually ordered its usage? Yeah that makes a lot of sense, everyone just loves Schniezel! I’m sure right after Hiroshima and Nagasaki the world chased after Oppenheimer right?! Ok maybe not, because this is Code Geass, where logic doesn’t matter.

What’s with this romantic music while these two guys are talking about their feelings after a nice horse ride? I’m headed more and more for Crusader’s camp, I’m really tired of all the blatant BL crap they put in this show. Add that to those really fruity looking uniforms they wear, who the hell designed this junk, a blind guy? And I suppose this “Requiem of Zero” is their final project to make the world a better place, but we really aren’t given much in the details.

The Knight of Four has been on the official website for a couple of weeks, but hadn’t really done anything in show. Amusingly enough she gets a couple of lines and is immediately annihilated by the Strike Freedom Lancelot Albion. I guess the black Rounds had to be the one who got the lowest amount of screen time and was first to die this week right?!

At least she had more speaking lines in more than one episode. In fact she’s garnered her own small following of fans as I’ve seen a bit of fanart pop up for her on 4chan and AS. As a parting gift to us viewers she gives us one emo facial contortion for the road. Sorry to see you go, but this cast is way too big.

I’m really not sure how to speculate on this one, some sort of relationship or rivalry between Bismarck and Marianne had been hinted at in episode 20 when Anya/Marianne was talking with C.C., but there isn’t much explanation. And with the death of both of the characters I doubt it will be discussed in the show, we’ll have to look for side materials. That being said, I’m going to ask a question here. How does sealing your eye shut prevent you from seeing the future? Can’t you just see it on the back of your eyelid? Oops, I shouldn’t be discussing plot holes in Geass…

Well, at least that’s three more members of the named cast who got eliminated this week. Cast inflation has been a huge problem during R2 so I’m glad it’s being reduced somewhat. I always thought the Rounds were somewhat superfluous anyways. It had been awhile since we had a real 1 on 1 KMF fight that was worth much of anything though, was happy for that at least.

A mecha pilot in a Sunrise show questioning his loyalties in a fit of emotional anguish?! Say it ain’t so! Ahhh Gino you are still a completely useless character. Be thankful Kira Suzaku decided to let you live because you were BFF before and to leave more openings for yaoi doujins.

Well, I’m going to hazard a guess that the person who departed was Anya. In the meeting watching Lelouch’s announcement there was Schniezel, Cornelia, Kanon, Diethard, and Anya. In the group shot at the end of the episode, Anya is no longer present among them. Not that this was the way in which I predicted Anya would defect over to Lelouch’s side, but it’s been a long time coming if it indeed works out that way.

Dear Viewers,

We at Sunrise don’t really intend to do any real character relationship development for anyone aside from Lelouch and Suzaku, and perhaps Lelouch and C.C. Thus, we decided to throw Kallen fans a bone and inserted this scene which we wrote in about 2 minutes just so you will leave us alone. Have a nice day, lulz.

-Sunrise Writing Staff


I found myself laughing more at the TL joke than the scene

He..he…he…MADE THE LOLI CRY?! That’s second degree loli abuse! Execute! Execute! The writers are definitely making an effort to make Lelouch look like an asshole who has thrown away all his morality, but I’m not buying it. They’ve pulled this kind of stuff before, and by the conversation he had with Suzaku, C.C., and Lloyd with the horses, he’s probably got some grand plan to make the world a better place. In one episode he wouldn’t just abandon his principles for no reason, he made them abundantly clear in his confrontation with mommy and daddy last episode.

Nina x Rivalz end?!?! I’m going to guess Lelouch wants her for some FLEIA of his own, or to combat Schniezel. I was quite amused at the fact he told his subordinates to basically throw Rivalz away. Lulz indeed.

They are also definitely doing their best to make Schniezel out to be an asshole here too, nuking the imperial capital and building some huge fortress stuffed with nukes. Yeah, and the whole Nunally thing doesn’t help his case either. Like I said last week, it seems like a very rushed final villain, I would have preferred the end to be Lelouch against Charles.

Sigh, now it’s just getting worse. I’ll once again reiterate that nobody is dead in a Sunrise show until you see the body. If it wasn’t so damn predictable even without the spoilers maybe I wouldn’t be so disappointed. It just seems like yet another episode cliffhanger involving Nunally, and this is what, the third one this season? It’s getting a bit stale. And really, it’s obvious she’s going to be manipulated by Schniezel and that he has no real intention of letting her rule over the world. Of course he’s going to be the puppet master pulling the strings, because he’s portrayed as an ambitious and power hungry guy.

Yeah, so this entry is a bit shorter than it has been in the past, but I just didn’t have much to fanboy about or bask in the entertainment. This show has always had plot holes and silliness, but usually there was so much entertainment in unintended humor or fabulousness or whatever to make that stuff not matter. However, this week I found that the entertainment was lacking, so I started to notice all of the stupidity. I mean I guess Sunrise has a slim chance of redeeming themselves in the end, and I don’t really want to judge the series as a whole before it’s done, but frankly, I’m not amused.

Next Episode:

Low quality extended preview of episode 23.

Schniezel looking evil, a blurry Gino (?) and Kallen hanging out near Mordred, Lelouch having a bout of emo and Suzaku slapping some sense into him, and Sayoko lives! From the extended preview, a large battle, C.C. approaching a very pink KMF and Nunally holding a…detonation device? Lordy, if she starts blowing people up with FREIA I’m going to flip.


Crusader’s Angry Drunken Rant

The Knight of Zero will kill all the women for a Pure and Yaoi world…

Victim #1 We hardly knew ye…

Victim #2, Twelve-san you will be missed…

Nina’s punishment will be to spend the rest of her life with Rivalz, it is a fate I think that is worse than death…

Such tragedy to have a lovely “Knight of the Rounds” killed off mere seconds after her introduction. Well Lulu and Suzaku have made it their mission to piss off every woman they ever knew, I guess that any heterosexual pairings will have to now exclude Suzaku and Lulu. Their new outfits certainly were fabulous, though in Suzaku’s case the pantyhose on his arms out fit really make me cringe. So yes not content to jumps shark once with the float packs they have now jumped shark on the shipping department with Lulu and Suzaku being much more than friends now. Such a pity that Cecile and Lloyd are going along with this, poor Kaguya now lost her husband for good. Lulu is now officially unforgivable for using Strike Freedom to threaten Tianzi.

Up in the morning to the rising sun. Gonna run all day ’til the running’s done. Suzaku is a son of bitch! Got the blue balls, crabs, and the seven year itch. I love working for Uncle Sam, let’s me know just who I am. Lulu and Suzaku were laying in bed. Lulu rolled over this what she said: a gimme some, PT, mmm good, mighty good. Good for you. Good for me. – excerpt from Britannian cadences

Strike Freedom is a GOOOOOOO!

Cornelia-sama :3

I love Cornelia-sama, she wants to put poor Nunnally on the throne.

Nina made a 180 and might suffer from pair the spares with Rivalz. As such I think we can forgive table humper Nina now, for the rest of her life she will have to live with Rivalz and that is certainly a fate worse than death. So ironic to see that now Schniezel is the good guy for trying to promote Empress Nunnally. I love how my Cornelia-hime wa willing to give the throne to Nunnaly for the sake of the people, Cornelia is just about the only reason I have left to soldier on through this ordeal of BL and mediocre mecha. I delighted in how both Suzaku and trembled at the sight of mecha Nunnally who will be opening a can of whup ass on both their BL hides. Do I care how Nunnally got out, not really considering how much bullshit this episode was. It was as if the yaoi clique made this one especially to troll the hetero people by killing off two lovely women, and destroying Lulu’s harem. Well mission accomplished. All HAIL BRITTANIA?

Next time the wheelchair of DOOM!

We have the technology…

Rolo lied, Lulu cried?

There is one more woman ypu must kill for LuluxSuzaku…

You can’t leave me for her, what about us?

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55 Comments

  1. Acerbus
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    There is a lot of things I can buy…things like Marianne being in Anya….

    This episode unfortunately, is NOT one of them. Seriously, if there was ever something to instantly zap my interesting in a series this did it. Nunnally surviving a NUKE is somewhere near the top of my episode’s WTF list.

  2. Milestailsprowe
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    This is making less sense as they go on. I wihs they just make a season 3 cause you can tell they are rushing EVERYTHING

  3. Haesslich
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

    So, Nunnally’s alright with nuking the capital? Or did Schneizei tell her everyone had left? I do wonder, if she gets data which suggests that there were millions there, will she blame Lulu for ordering it?

  4. Eldar
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    Well you just wait after a few more years, Sunrise will be approaching Gonzo in terms of quality if it hasn’t already done so.

    As for Marianne and Bismarck, I think the most recent Rounds novel established that they were the only two round knights that remained loyal to Charles after an attempted coup against him.

  5. jeph
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

    Well I guess that answers my question about who’s side the Rounds are on. And speaking of Rounds where was Nonette (Knight of Nine), I imagine she and Cornelia will team up at some point.

    Why do all anime rulers have to design their uniforms for form BEFORE function. Seriously, what was wrong with the old ones? When your pilot suit has more than seventeen layers, something’s wrong.

    And that pink Knightmare was a pink version of the Lancelot, possibly Suzaku’s old one since the Albion is a whole new model and not simply an upgrade.

  6. XXX
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    -Whoever designed Suzaku’s new clothes and, if applicable, Lelouch’s must be punished.

    -RUSH, RUSH, RUSH…but I’ve been in total agreement with that for weeks now. Still, it’s not that hard to explain certain things, even if the show itself admittedly does a poor job of it these days, and others aren’t really a problem (Bismark’s Geass apparently predicts movement, not the future in general, and requiring eye contact for it is no different than for other powers).

    -That was a crappy way to clean-up the remaining Rounds and send them all to hell, but that kinda goes along with the previous one and I’ve given up on the mecha fights in this show, to be honest.

    -I actually liked Kallen’s scene, just not its result.

    -Nunnally’s survival is “meh”, but it’s been talked about for weeks so no surprise.

  7. Ominae
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 4:37 pm | Permalink

    “I AM THE NUNNANATOR!”

    First thing that came in mind.

    And yeah, there oughta be protest for the short Lulu/Kallen scene.

  8. Posted September 7, 2008 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    @Acerbus

    For many it may be WTF, but for those of us used to it it’s just an eyeroll instead.

    @Milestaisprowe

    I hope they don’t make a season 3, heh. One would like some OVAs or side materials to flesh the story out a bit though.

    @Haesslich

    No details on that yet, but good money is on her being manipulated by him. That’s what kind of makes it sad, that they would bring her back so she could believe Schniezel instead of the brother that was with her the whole time defending her. If they brought her back just to kill her off again I will not be pleased.

    @Eldar

    Eh, they’ve pulled this stuff before and it’s about the same as a few years ago so I don’t really see them sliding that far down. They do manage to throw in good shows in there that aren’t like this so I wouldn’t worry too much.

    And I didn’t know that about Marianne and Bismarck, although I’m still a bit curious as to why he would want to save his geass for Marianne or whatever if they were such great allies.

    @Jeph

    Yeah they just got rid of 2 weak rounds and the supposed strongest. The others aside from Nonette had some more presence so they have to have a bit more screentime before they are iced. No idea what they plan on doing with Nonette.

    It kind of does look somewhat like Lancelot, so maybe Lloyd whipped up a version of it for her. The old Lancelot got pretty trashed by the Guren so I’m not sure if it’s the same exact one. On the other hand it could just be a pink Vincent, the mass produced model Lancelot that Rolo piloted.

    @XXX

    They are speeding time way up here trying to fit in too many silly twists at the end and change the villains around. If they would have stuck with Charles as the final boss they would have been on pace for a much smoother ending.

    As for Kallen, I’m not really a shipper in this show because the romance takes such a back seat. And even considering it, despite me being a big Kallen fanboy, I still think a C.C. end would be more fitting considering their relationship and the story. I just take offense to the crappy way in which Kallen’s development and general screentime has been crapped on in the latter 2/3 of this season.

    @Ominae

    TERMINATED BY WHEELCHAIR

  9. Halcyon
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    AMAZING!!! Sunrise manages to keep on trolling hard right as we enter the last stretch.

    I have no idea why Lelouch wanted to force a vote of the UFN at gunpoint. That was just pure idiocy. The UFN probably would’ve let him in normally without resorting to brute force. That’s not the strategic Lelouch we’ve all come to know and love/hate but maybe there’s a deeper meaning behind it? IDK.

    Suzaku one-shotting 2 Knight of Rounds and decimating Gino/Bismarck was pretty LOL. I wish they gave the Black Ranger Ko4 more screen time. Maybe even a fanservice shot or two. Sucks that she was eliminated right after being introduced. I’m also going to miss MOEnica. She was too cute to die ;_;

    Another thing that pissed me off was the 5 minute scene between Kallen and Lelouch. WTF was up with that? After spending two episodes wanting to ask Lelouch something she leaves before he can even answer her? And Lelouch pretty much just let her walk away without so much as a word even though HE’S the one that wanted to talk to her privately. Massive fucking plot holes, left and right. Sadly, with her kiss goodbye it looks like Kallen’s death-flag has been raised. She won’t be around past episode 24.

    This episode wasn’t as nearly entertaining or lulzy as the last one and it also felt incredibly rushed. As predicted, Lelouch frees the 11s, grants equal rights to everyone and then turns around and holds the UFN representatives hostage…. Yeah… makes complete sense.

    It also seems Schneizel is competing with Lelouch for biggest asshole on the series as he unleashes FLEIJA on his own capital and Nunnally doesn’t blink an eye (lolpun). If it wasn’t for the spoilers I would’ve said Anya was faking Nunnally but seeing Sayoko alive and well in the previews kind of shoots that theory down.

    Next episode looks like a clusterfuck as well. At least it’s almost over.
    I can’t wait to see who lives, who dies and who rages at the ending.

  10. CJ
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    Dam I really don’t have much to say this episode left me sad in the fact that the shit that “hit” the fan didn’t really shock me or entertain me (unlike last week’s episode =(]
    -oh well the whole Nunally thing I knew it the second I saw it I mean they gave her to much importance for her to just die like she did all I’m wondering is if she will die for realz?
    -At least we saw ORANGE
    -Kallen you fool
    -Lelouch just wants the nuke from nina to tell the Ootbk to fuck off and nuke them….again
    Lelouch: “so you backstabbed me”
    Ootbk: “wait we’re sorry we have cookies and loli’s that you can make cry”
    Lelouch: “No it’s too late now Strike Freedom nuke them”
    Suzaku: “Yes your majesty….It’s not the strike it’s the albion”
    Lelouch: “Whatever just do it”
    *nuke* XP
    -Why do they keep making an emo Lelouch??????? COME ON STOP IT ALREADY it’s like they’re trying to make all the emo’s of the world go like:
    Emo’s of the world: “I wanna be like him” MAKE IT STOOOOOOOOOP
    -I like pie.
    -Also I’m too lazy and dissapointed to watch the episode again to check but I even think they wanted to save animation budget and didn’t even give the knight of 4 a proper knightmare frame? or atleast I didn’t see one so WTF so much for knight of rounds importance.

  11. XXX
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    @Halcyon: Not that deep, but it’s obvious that the rush made it harder to see/accept than it should have been.

    Lelouch was simply lying through his teeth through about 70-90% of the episode, especially in his public appearances. You only get a couple of hints about what he really wants (the “Zero Requiem” is a short, if unnecessarily vague, way to put it), and it’s not to make peace with everybody.

    What he said he wanted from the UFN didn’t technically matter, he was seeking an excuse and it was already extremely unlikely that they’d agree to his terms once the Geass countermeasures were in place. He was also already moving to invade Japan too

    He pretended to ignore Kallen and did a very good job of hurting her in the process. More than “wanting to speak in private”, he just wanted to cut all ties with her. Which is not what I wanted to see, personally, but I think it works in the context of what he wants to do (doom himself and Britannia with him, so why drag Kallen down with him?), and I can accept the scene from that perspective.

    You may be unfortunately correct about the death-flag, but not much else I can say until it happens (or doesn’t, one can hope).

    @Calawain: I actually agree with keeping Charles as the final boss, even if the result would more or less what we still got, just with much better pacing and some improved explanations. Which, honestly, I think would have done all of us a favor.

    I’m not that much of a shipper either but I won’t deny I like Kallen, and Kallen x Lelouch was something R2 focused on, even if through bits and pieces. Can’t say I am entirely happy about how that went, but I can understand certain developments and overall found it better than other parts of the show.

    C.C.’s indeed a much more fitting partner, no doubt, story wise…a doomed witch and a doomed warlock is what they are after all.

  12. Halcyon
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 5:52 pm | Permalink

    @XXX

    Not that deep, but it’s obvious that the rush made it harder to see/accept than it should have been.

    I’d say disposing of 3/4 rounds within the first 10 minutes of the episode is pretty damn fast. Especially when the Ko1 is hyped up to be the best of the Rounds AND has a Geass on top of that.

    Lelouch was simply lying through his teeth through about 70-90% of the episode, especially in his public appearances. You only get a couple of hints about what he really wants (the “Zero Requiem” is a short, if unnecessarily vague, way to put it), and it’s not to make peace with everybody.

    It’s impossible to decipher what his plans really are, other than “World Domination”. What’s left after that? Why does he want to dominate the World? Why not just off Schneizel, abdicate the throne and go back to being a student (like he’s said he wanted to in numerous episodes)? There’s no insight into his motivation for his actions like there was previously.

    What he said he wanted from the UFN didn’t technically matter, he was seeking an excuse and it was already extremely unlikely that they’d agree to his terms once the Geass countermeasures were in place. He was also already moving to invade Japan too

    The majority of the UFN had already supported Britannia’s entrance, blaming Charles for all past Britannian misdeeds. The only ones who knew about his Geass were Kaguya and Xing Ke. They were really the only ones who were opposed to Britannia entering the UFN and set up countermeasures to ensure Lelouch wouldn’t dominate the UFN or Geass the representatives into voting in favor of Britannian membership.

    He pretended to ignore Kallen and did a very good job of hurting her in the process. More than “wanting to speak in private”, he just wanted to cut all ties with her. Which is not what I wanted to see, personally, but I think it works in the context of what he wants to do (doom himself and Britannia with him, so why drag Kallen down with him?), and I can accept the scene from that perspective.

    That’s retarded. Why would he want to cut all ties with Kallen? Half a dozen episodes ago he was willing to confront the COMBINED forces of Schneizel AND the Chinese Federation just to rescue her and now it seems like he’s discarding her for some unknown reason. It’s completely contradictory to what we’ve been shown up to this point.

    You may be unfortunately correct about the death-flag, but not much else I can say until it happens (or doesn’t, one can hope).

    The kiss goodbye is Kallen leaving Lelouch behind. With the Kallen/Lelouch relationship/development officially dead and over, Kallen no longer has a role to fulfill. Suzaku has taken Kallen’s place as Lelouch’s right hand so Kallen is relegated to being a third wheel. Kallen even states that she’d be “the one to defeat Lelouch”, thereby turning her back on him. So far, most of Lelouch’s antagonists that have NOT defected have been killed off. Expect Kallen to die somewhere in the upcoming battle against Damocles. It’s really the only development left for her at this point. A self-sacrificing death which causes Lelouch to reflect on his lost humanity and encourages him to abandon the path of the Demon King and try to reclaim his former normal life is the only road left for Kallen.

    C.C.’s indeed a much more fitting partner, no doubt, story wise…a doomed witch and a doomed warlock is what they are after all.

    I’ll tell you why this doesn’t work. C.C.’s wish is to rid herself of her immortality and die and the only way she can do that is if Lelouch takes her Code and kill her. It’s a doomed relationship as one is destined to kill the other. This is why Kallen x Lelouch (with all the development between them this season) made infinitely more sense than C.C. x Lelouch.

    C.C. x Lelouch would’ve been better if they had stuck to the implied relationship they had back in Season 1. In Season 2, C.C. has gone from being his partner-in-crime to some weak-kneed subordinate moe-blob.

    Anyway, it looks like it’s going to be a SuzakuxLelouch homolust ending after all. DAMN YOU SUNRISE! DAMN YOU TANIGUCHI FOR GETTING MY HOPES UP!!

  13. lichen
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Nunally is Sarah Palin!

  14. CJ
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    I forgot to mention that in the intro the background of when lelouch is putting on his contact lense has returned to being daylight.

  15. nark narks
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 6:08 pm | Permalink

    I’m unashamed in my continuing enjoyment of geass but I would say that its not as if Lelouch has attempted to take over the world for no reason, His plan since season one has been 2fold right?
    1. Destroy Britannia
    2. Make a better world for Nunnally

    While the 2nd one’s has change a few times, Disapeared, back, dead and back again. Basic idea of making the world a better place has remained. However with the power he has there is only so much he can do so he’s forced into the role of the villain to forcefully change the world. If it all goes to plan Britannia is destroyed and the UFN democratic model remains in charge.

  16. Posted September 7, 2008 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    DAKUSEI WA ONI is now a meme.

    I needed more than beer to get through this episode. They’ve been raising the death flag for Kallen, although I hope that doesn’t happen. It’s made even less sense than ever before – I don’t even think the series was just rushed, I think a hurricane passed through it. It’s just that bad.

    It’s still an affecting episode, however, but in all the wrong things.

  17. XXX
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    @Halcyon: “I’d say disposing of 3/4 rounds within the first 10 minutes of the episode is pretty damn fast. Especially when the Ko1 is hyped up to be the best of the Rounds AND has a Geass on top of that.”

    At least he did get some measure of respect, but I’m not happy about rushing the rest to their graves either, though it was predictable result with the Albion present.

    “It’s impossible to decipher what his plans really are, other than “World Domination”. What’s left after that? Why does he want to dominate the World?”

    I don’t claim to be absolutely right, but regardless…to put it another way, the whole “World Domination” cackling dictator persona is, at heart, the same thing we saw back in Stage 25 and to an extent in Turn 19. That’s a “mask” he puts on and not what he really wants, per se…but this time, admittedly, his motivations are different and less clear.

    Do I agree with that decision? No. Was it shown in the best way? Heck no. But you can extrapolate a few things (the use of that kind of “mask”) if necessary.

    “Why not just off Schneizel, abdicate the throne and go back to being a student (like he’s said he wanted to in numerous episodes)? There’s no insight into his motivation for his actions like there was previously.”

    I’d give you that we have less insight that we had before, certainly, and that’s a clear negative on several counts, but there are signs.

    Why do you think he mentioned making people forget about Euphie’s massacre or talking about the spilling of blood, and the whole “Zero Requiem” thing when it briefly came up? He doesn’t spell it out, and maybe he should have, but those are the words of a man who wants to create conflict, to be smeared and, ultimately, to die…and unify the world under him or against him in the process (and thus bringing “peace”), but his personal punishment is at the heart of it, even if it goes against his previous plans.

    “The majority of the UFN had already supported Britannia’s entrance, blaming Charles for all past Britannian misdeeds. The only ones who knew about his Geass were Kaguya and Xing Ke. They were really the only ones who were opposed to Britannia entering the UFN and set up countermeasures to ensure Lelouch wouldn’t dominate the UFN or Geass the representatives into voting in favor of Britannian membership.”

    Kaguya and Xingke, plus the Black Knights (though they are not technically part of the UFN), all of whom interact…and they have more weight than the votes alone would indicate, thanks to their positions. Joining the UFN was a feint, since Lelouch knew those few key individuals would not accept to essentially become his subordinates, even if popular opinion was in favor of Britannia’s entry. Even if he, say, used Geass or the vote was made under threat…the Black Knights would turn against him immediately, since they were already watching out for such things, and war would likely still erupt.

    “That’s retarded. Why would he want to cut all ties with Kallen? Half a dozen episodes ago he was willing to confront the COMBINED forces of Schneizel AND the Chinese Federation just to rescue her and now it seems like he’s discarding her for some unknown reason. It’s completely contradictory to what we’ve been shown up to this point.”

    He’s changed somewhat since then and so have his goals and the situation at large, because of Nunnally’s apparent death, the betrayals, the whole Ragnarok thing and everything that happened in it. Those things. They didn’t necessarily have to lead him down that path, but they did. Blame the writing staff. Maybe that explanation or interpretation isn’t the best, in terms of accounting for details, but the essentials are included there.

    I’m not saying he hates Kallen or anything, but he doesn’t want to involve her in what he’s doing, and that includes playing the role of the world’s number one “bad guy” if necessary. That’s not what he planned, even as Zero, but now that’s the way the story is heading.

    “Expect Kallen to die somewhere in the upcoming battle against Damocles. It’s really the only development left for her at this point. A self-sacrificing death which causes Lelouch to reflect on his lost humanity and encourages him to abandon the path of the Demon King and try to reclaim his former normal life is the only road left for Kallen.”

    I’m not saying you don’t have a point there, you know. You do.

    It’s just that you don’t necessarily have to be right, and I (subjectively) hope you are not. If you are, feel free to congratulate yourself.

    “This is why Kallen x Lelouch (with all the development between them this season) made infinitely more sense than C.C. x Lelouch.”

    In terms of this season alone, I agree. But C.C. is still by Lelouch’s side and season one, all things considered, can’t be taken out of the equation even if the moe-blob turns you against it…and things are heading in quite a different direction, since only C.C. and Suzaku know about what Lelouch is trying to do right now.

    “Anyway, it looks like it’s going to be a SuzakuxLelouch homolust ending after all. DAMN YOU SUNRISE! DAMN YOU TANIGUCHI FOR GETTING MY HOPES UP!!”

    Feel free to damn them…I’ll just agree or disagree with their decisions and results.

  18. a12a12
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 6:37 pm | Permalink

    The tone in here is getting a little too condescending. I think it is very important to remember who the target audience is for Code Geass- 10-12 year-old Japanese kids, NOT 20-something Americans such as Calawain. So of course there are going to be plot holes and regurgitation of plot devices from past Sunrise anime. You know why? It’s because the kids who are the target audience for Sunrise do not have the insight and experience to criticize the series as adults do. They don’t know the difference between a masterpiece and a pile of shit like Pokemon. I really enjoy reading this blog, but please stop complaining in every goddam post about how the plot sucks. Just enjoy the silliness and “WTF-factor” that is Code Geass and enjoy the ride.

  19. xrampage
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 7:27 pm | Permalink

    I have a request for all of you people, if you’d be so kind as to accept it I want to be the one to comfort my dear Kaguya-loli…uhm, oh yeah, and I lol’ed at the Nunally come back stuff, proves for certain that thing about “in a Sunrise show….”

  20. Halcyon
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

    @XXX

    At least he did get some measure of respect, but I’m not happy about rushing the rest to their graves either, though it was predictable result with the Albion present.

    The major problem with this is that last episode Suzaku was literally fighting the urge to run away due to his Geass. This episode he does the exact opposite, he charges straight in and slices him in half with really no trouble. And this is supposed to be the BEST of the best. Bismarck’s obviously a superior pilot to Suzaku and has a Geass that allows him to see the future. So why did Suzaku beat him? Technologyhax, which allows Sunrise to dispose of characters unilaterally without the trouble of having any character development or questions about the remaining characters.

    I don’t claim to be absolutely right, but regardless…to put it another way, the whole “World Domination” cackling dictator persona is, at heart, the same thing we saw back in Stage 25 and to an extent in Turn 19. That’s a “mask” he puts on and not what he really wants, per se…but this time, admittedly, his motivations are different and less clear.

    He explicitly told Suzaku he wants to take over the world. The question is why? He’s already disposed of Charles, his only real threat is Schneizel but does he need to take over the world to neutralize Schneizel? Unless we get some clarification, there’s no real reason for Lelouch to go into “Worldo Domination” mode. Especially now that Nunnally has declared Lelouch to be her enemy.

    I’d give you that we have less insight that we had before, certainly, and that’s a clear negative on several counts, but there are signs.

    Signs or red herrings? This series has been notorious for misdirecting its audience.

    Why do you think he mentioned making people forget about Euphie’s massacre or talking about the spilling of blood, and the whole “Zero Requiem” thing when it briefly came up? He doesn’t spell it out, and maybe he should have, but those are the words of a man who wants to create conflict, to be smeared and, ultimately, to die…and unify the world under him or against him in the process (and thus bringing “peace”), but his personal punishment is at the heart of it, even if it goes against his previous plans.

    So, Code Geass is ripping off Gundam 00 now?

    Kaguya and Xingke, plus the Black Knights (though they are not technically part of the UFN), all of whom interact…and they have more weight than the votes alone would indicate, thanks to their positions. Joining the UFN was a feint, since Lelouch knew those few key individuals would not accept to essentially become his subordinates, even if popular opinion was in favor of Britannia’s entry. Even if he, say, used Geass or the vote was made under threat…the Black Knights would turn against him immediately, since they were already watching out for such things, and war would likely still erupt.

    Lelouch also knew that the majority votes would get him in regardless of opposition. He knew that because, as Zero, he designed the charter. The Black Knights couldn’t turn against Lelouch or Britannia without antagonizing the UFN which was openly stated by Xing Ke in the episode. Lelouch really had them backed into a corner and all he had to do, really, was come up with a power-sharing counter proposal with some checks and balances on Britannian power to get membership into the UFN. Instead, he took them all hostage… Stupid stupid move.

    He’s changed somewhat since then and so have his goals and the situation at large, because of Nunnally’s apparent death, the betrayals, the whole Ragnarok thing and everything that happened in it. Those things. They didn’t necessarily have to lead him down that path, but they did. Blame the writing staff. Maybe that explanation or interpretation isn’t the best, in terms of accounting for details, but the essentials are included there.

    I simply don’t buy that. As evidenced in the episode, Lelouch looks significantly troubled when Kallen walks away from him which shows that he still retains some attachment to Kallen. While he may have ‘changed’ as a person, his affinity for Kallen has not. Lelouch’s problem is he isn’t able to vocalize what that affinity is and that’s all Kallen is really looking for. Some verification that she’s important to him and that he “needs her”, not just as a bodyguard.

    It’s just that you don’t necessarily have to be right, and I (subjectively) hope you are not. If you are, feel free to congratulate yourself.

    I’m just saying, the probability of Kallen dying in the next 2 episodes is extremely high because of this episodes way of ending the relationship between Kallen and Lelouch. I don’t see any reason why Kallen would live til the end. By freeing the 11s, Lelouch has fulfilled Kallen’s brother’s dream of independence and removed the need for the Order of the Black Knights. What’s left for her to do now that Japan is free and she’s left Lelouch behind?

    In terms of this season alone, I agree. But C.C. is still by Lelouch’s side and season one, all things considered, can’t be taken out of the equation even if the moe-blob turns you against it…and things are heading in quite a different direction, since only C.C. and Suzaku know about what Lelouch is trying to do right now.

    Like I said before, C.C. wants to die. That’s her greatest desires. Lelouch is the only one that can kill her. That makes it impossible for them to have a happy end together. A happy end for C.C. is a smiling death. Lelouch is the only one that can give that to her. There’s no scenario available which would allow them to live happily ever after. Kallen, on the other hand, knowing the identity of Zero and knowing Lelouch as an Ashford student was really the only candidate for a romantic end. This was further evidence by Lelouch telling Kallen to live on 2 episodes ago. But they just blew that all to hell this episode.

    Feel free to damn them…I’ll just agree or disagree with their decisions and results.

    I just think it’s hilarious how a teenage genius is capable of taking over the world but completely socially crippled when it comes to dealing with women (Shirley, Kallen, etc). It sounds more like the premise for a retarded romance comedy than a shounen action mecha.

  21. jack
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 7:52 pm | Permalink

    @Halcyon

    Issue is “significantly troubled”. Lelouch is troubled, but not significantly. He can so live with all this. Most of it he enjoys.

    As for Suzaku’s Live Geass… he’s been experiencing it more and feeling it out. He can resist for more than just a few seconds now. It would make sense that he can use it as a unbelievably quick-and-dirty screener of actions- if contemplating something doesn’t require you to keep at bay the screaming compulsion in your mind and it isn’t “run away”, go with it, it’ll probably work out. It’d be like being able to use your subconcious to think things through. That’s got to be a lot of processing power that can suddenly be used to hash specific things out.

  22. XXX
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

    @Halcyon: “So why did Suzaku beat him? Technologyhax, which allows Sunrise to dispose of characters unilaterally without the trouble of having any character development or questions about the remaining characters.”

    I’m not questioning that it was Technologyhax, but if you’re going to introduce such monsters like the new Guren and the Albion in the first place, that’s consistent. The battle could have taken at least half of the episode to make it more convincing, naturally, but the staff decided to prioritize other events.

    “He explicitly told Suzaku he wants to take over the world. The question is why?”

    You disagreed, in whole and in part, but I’ve given one possible rationale.

    “Especially now that Nunnally has declared Lelouch to be her enemy.”

    The preview indicates that it could make him doubt his decision, at least. With some luck, we might get some small clarifications, whether they confirm my interpretations or something else entirely.

    “Signs or red herrings? This series has been notorious for misdirecting its audience.”

    True, but then again there are also disagreements in how the audience interprets things anyways, so if you want to call them red herrings that’s completely alright. I will wait and see what happens on my end, at least.

    “So, Code Geass is ripping off Gundam 00 now?”

    It may well be. It’s the most recent example, though the general idea is older than that. You’ve said nastier stuff though, so that being true would be peanuts by comparison.

    “Lelouch also knew that the majority votes would get him in regardless of opposition.”

    On paper. But in practice, and considering the individuals involved, that’s where everything else comes in.

    “The Black Knights couldn’t turn against Lelouch or Britannia without antagonizing the UFN which was openly stated by Xing Ke in the episode.”

    And yet they did put pressure on Lelouch, by placing him in a virtual cage while making demands. Somewhat reasonable ones too, if Lelouch really wanted that. But my opinion is that he didn’t want to negotiate at all. It was take it or leave it from his POV. You call taking hostages stupid (and it is, in the real world), but in my interpretation that revealed his true intentions in coming to the talks and was not some last minute decision on his part.

    “I simply don’t buy that. As evidenced in the episode, Lelouch looks significantly troubled when Kallen walks away from him which shows that he still retains some attachment to Kallen. While he may have ‘changed’ as a person, his affinity for Kallen has not. Lelouch’s problem is he isn’t able to vocalize what that affinity is and that’s all Kallen is really looking for. Some verification that she’s important to him and that he “needs her”, not just as a bodyguard.”

    That affinity is real, and its original roots are as you say, but it is an obstacle to the path he is walking on…even for her sake. He was acting and dropped his “mask” slightly, but otherwise kept it up quite convincingly. You can’t tell me that the face he was making during most of that encounter (or how he initially addressed Kallen as if she was someone he didn’t know) was simply his usual difficulty to put feelings into words…it was that *and* his not wanting to answer, because it’d involve Kallen in his machinations. You think it’s just business as usual, I think that’s one of the personal sacrifices he chose to make (even to protect her, arguably) as part of his plans.

    “I’m just saying, the probability of Kallen dying in the next 2 episodes is extremely high because of this episodes way of ending the relationship between Kallen and Lelouch.”

    I agree but I’m choosing to bet against that high probability until there is information that spoils the end of the show outright. Don’t tell me you’ve never done that.

    Which is not the safe thing to do, but once every Blue Moon it may work…and hey, it can’t hurt. It’s such a poorly written show that even that might be a red herring…and I’m only half-joking there.

    “What’s left for her to do now that Japan is free and she’s left Lelouch behind?”

    You still have a point, but she could always move on if the staff desires it.

    “Like I said before, C.C. wants to die. That’s her greatest desires.”

    On the surface, yes. But her original greatest desire was to be loved, corny as it may be. You think a smiling death would do, okay. I think the smile could work by itself too. It wouldn’t be an explicitly romantic end but then again their relationship is more implicit and platonic, isn’t it?

    “This was further evidence by Lelouch telling Kallen to live on 2 episodes ago. But they just blew that all to hell this episode.”

    From your point of view, one which I recognize as valid and having a point, yes. There’s still a tiny chance for other options, however, even if it may be foolish to bet against the odds. That’s all I’m saying. What else?

    “I just think it’s hilarious how a teenage genius is capable of taking over the world but completely socially crippled when it comes to dealing with women (Shirley, Kallen, etc). It sounds more like the premise for a retarded romance comedy than a shounen action mecha.”

    I think even that same premise could have made for a better show, actually.

  23. aeriolewinters
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    We can all qualm about Suzaku having Strike Freedom… but His biggest mistake is not Killing Gino….

  24. Ryuua
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    I’m thinking Anya defected from Schneizel’s group after she read in her diary that she wanted to have hot drunken sloppy sex with Lelouch…..

    Soo. whats AS?

  25. EvilDevil
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    “At least she had more speaking lines in more than one episode. In fact she’s garnered her own small following of fans as I’ve seen a bit of fanart pop up for her on 4chan and AS.”
    Nooooooo!!! Damn you, you bastards, damn you to hell!!!!

    “He..he…he…MADE THE LOLI CRY?!”
    Death To Lulu!!!!

    “Nina’s punishment will be to spend the rest of her life with Rivalz, it is a fate I think that is worse than death…”
    …Oh, God… I dont know who I should feel sorry for…

    “Next time the wheelchair of DOOM!”
    Go Nunnally Go!!! Save us from his vision of a yaoi world!!!!

  26. FireStarter
    Posted September 7, 2008 at 11:54 pm | Permalink

    Did you notice that Odysseus, the first prince, was put into Britannia Army and was doing training with other soldiers. It’s the scene right before your first screen shot.

  27. Sagittarius
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    I don’t know what to say, the pointless slaughter of characters, the pointless bloating the series with too many characters, bringing back the dead, geassing GOD, Becoming emperor in such a crazy manner, I seriously feel it is brain damaging and will lower IQ. I no longer expect anything that makes sense in R2, but this is insanity worse than insanity. I merely watch to see how it ends.

  28. Maximilian
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 1:51 am | Permalink

    “That being said, I’m going to ask a question here. How does sealing your eye shut prevent you from seeing the future? Can’t you just see it on the back of your eyelid? Oops, I shouldn’t be discussing plot holes in Geass…”

    I don’t understand why there is a plot hole here… He doesn’t it see the people through his Geass eyes, therefore the Geass wouldn’t activate and he wouldn’t see the actions in the near future. It’s exactly the same thing with Lelouch using contact lenses.

    On another note, Lelouch should be in Guiness for removing/putting on lenses FOR TWO EYES in about a second. I mean, it was SOMEWHAT believable for one eye, but for two eyes, it was just WTF?! xD

  29. Posted September 8, 2008 at 7:44 am | Permalink

    Suzaku and Hono-Lulu are nuts.

    anyhow… seems like in the next epi there’s going to be a much bigger fuss.

    Gundam 00 2nd season is next (October). yeah!

  30. Halcyon
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    @jack

    Issue is “significantly troubled”. Lelouch is troubled, but not significantly. He can so live with all this. Most of it he enjoys.

    Lelouch can live without Nunnally (as he found out when he thought she was dead) but that doesn’t mean that the loss of Nunnally or Kallen didn’t leave a significant impact on him. From Lelouch’s perspective, he’s becoming more and more isolated from the things he cares about most.

    As for Suzaku’s Live Geass… he’s been experiencing it more and feeling it out. He can resist for more than just a few seconds now.

    That’s not the way Geass works. He’s not supposed to be able to resist it at all, unless he finds the Order placed on him so reprehensible or unthinkable that he cannot compel himself to carry it out. Obviously, something like “live on” or “survive” wouldn’t fit that description.

    It would make sense that he can use it as a unbelievably quick-and-dirty screener of actions- if contemplating something doesn’t require you to keep at bay the screaming compulsion in your mind and it isn’t “run away”, go with it, it’ll probably work out. It’d be like being able to use your subconcious to think things through. That’s got to be a lot of processing power that can suddenly be used to hash specific things out.

    The problem here is that his Geass Order is specifically designed for self-preservation. In the last episode that meant running away. This episode it’s almost the exact opposite (charging head on). The only thing that changed between episodes was the addition of an -untested- Mech upgrade. The pilots’ skills and the difference in combat ability didn’t change. Bismarck was still #1. The addition of a new weapon shouldn’t have changed the Geass outcome, especially with Suzaku discovering that Bismarck could read his every move ahead of time. That should’ve flagged the Geass to tell him that, maybe, he was out of his league. Suzaku’s actions in the last two episodes have directly contradicted his Geass Order, which is supposed to be impossible according to the rules set in S1.

    @XXX

    The battle could have taken at least half of the episode to make it more convincing, naturally, but the staff decided to prioritize other events.

    It’s just a shitty way to dispose of a character (like Bismarck) who was built up to be super powerful (especially since they even gave him a Geass) along with a character who, got her own character page, but was immediately disposed of after being introduced.

    It may well be. It’s the most recent example, though the general idea is older than that. You’ve said nastier stuff though, so that being true would be peanuts by comparison.

    Most of the criticisms I’ve lobbied about this show have been echoed across the blogosphere to varying degrees. They’re not anything groundbreaking or new. The primary issue here, is that the writers are attempting to paper over the obvious flaws in the show by borrowing themes and plot devices from other shows (Evangelion, Gundam 00). While this kind of ‘homage’ is usually acceptable, most other shows don’t rely on this kind of technique to mask their inherent flaws.

    And yet they did put pressure on Lelouch, by placing him in a virtual cage while making demands. Somewhat reasonable ones too, if Lelouch really wanted that. But my opinion is that he didn’t want to negotiate at all.

    Um, what the BK implemented was an anti-Geass countermeasure to contain Lelouch. What the BK didn’t want to do was openly confront Lelouch militarily because that would’ve thrown even more popular support behind Lelouch’s application for membership into the UFN. The BK’s major concern was that due to the way the UFN is set up, the membership into UFN would’ve effectively given Lelouch proxy control over the entire world by dominating both halves of the largest factions (Britannia via Monarchy, UFN via voting authority).

    That affinity is real, and its original roots are as you say, but it is an obstacle to the path he is walking on…even for her sake. He was acting and dropped his “mask” slightly, but otherwise kept it up quite convincingly. You can’t tell me that the face he was making during most of that encounter (or how he initially addressed Kallen as if she was someone he didn’t know) was simply his usual difficulty to put feelings into words…it was that *and* his not wanting to answer, because it’d involve Kallen in his machinations. You think it’s just business as usual, I think that’s one of the personal sacrifices he chose to make (even to protect her, arguably) as part of his plans.

    Pushing her away might have made sense, if it weren’t for the last episode in which Lelouch RAGED against his parents for doing the same exact thing to him. In this episode, it comes off as short-sighted and hypocritical. Furthermore, since Kallen is in the BK, letting her leave without any word only puts her at a higher risk since she’s most likely going to wind up fighting against Suzaku in his newly minted Albion. Whether she’s with Lelouch or not, she’s going to be involved in this World Conflict, by allowing her to leave on her own she’s in more danger than she would be if she was by his side. Let’s face it, Gurren 8 Elements + Lancelot Albion = unbeatable combo. Lelouch made an idiot strategic move.

    With most of the Knights of the Rounds almost eliminated, Lelouch had the opportunity to monopolize the two best pilots with the two best KnightMare Frames and he completely screwed it up. Now with Schneizel making his move in Damocles, that extra power would’ve been a greater counterweight to Damocles.

    Of course, the opening theme already indicates that the Black Knights will fight against the Damocles so there’s still a chance for them to team up but throwing away a perfect opportunity to consolidate his military resources was still a stupid, myopic move.

    Lelouch is supposed to be perfectly Machiavellian in his strategic executions but he’s making a lot of dumb choices lately that go against his supposed ‘intellectual’ character.

    I think even that same premise could have made for a better show, actually.

    It might make for a good omake or OVA!

    This is probably my last post raging on Geass. As we enter the last 3 episodes, I’m just going to enjoy the downward spiral. =]

  31. Simond
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Now now guys… Some of you may be surprised… some of you may wonder… Some of you may not like R2 episode 22s outcome, but after watching 47 episodes of Code Geass you dare question Lulu’s motives?.. hehehe.. No matter how puzzling or how hard to fathom the story is, it’s succeeding episodes will always shed light upon the current issue… You should have anticipated a shitty episode like this will happen… full of questions unanswered, lies and bullshit… This is an abstract episode to give way to more colorful future episodes…

    And about Lulu, Kallen, CC love triangle….

    I would personally want the Lulu ^ Kallen angle… Face it CC is way too old for Lulu… The CC ^ Lulu love team will surely not gain that much interest because no matter how beautiful the witch is the King never marries the magician… But the help… well well… I think we got ourselves here another Cinderella Story…

    Much anticipation… much questions…

    we want more!!!

    All hail Code Geass!!! ahhahhaha… (-’V'-) <=== look into my eye!! You are under my command!!!

  32. lilu
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    I think code geass r2 episode 22 is gundam 00. Suzaku x Lelouch x C.C. are Celestial Being.

  33. CJ
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    For those of you saying that lelouch is taking or putting on to contact lenses at the same time remember the emperor’s geass was like that and he could control it so maybe when the geass enters the second eye you can control it again. He just does the cool hand motion cuz he wants to make it look cool.

  34. adict.33
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    I just hope Nunnaly doesn’t start shooting off fleja warheads…
    She has kinda poor aim.
    Zero’s Requiem consists simply in lelouch taking over the world,
    the Knights of rounds and the Ufn are just the beggining.
    probably Nunnaly isn’t quite herself now..
    maybe she’s under a geass’s influence. (Maybe Schneizell’s)
    Will she get rid of the one Charles put on her?

  35. skoll
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    I literally laughed so hard at this episode that I couldn’t sleep, and my incessant giggling made my roommate nearly kill me. Does anyone else find it supremely funny that Black Rounds lady was such a bit character that Sunrise didn’t even bother designing a knightmare for her and instead had shown in exactly two places:

    1) the cockpit
    2) pasted across the sky

    Aside from that, and (slightly) more seriously, this episode reinforced in me exactly why I think Lelouch is the best character in Geass. His actions at Ashford in this episode show two things–

    -He is superficially a hypocrite.
    -He does not believe in morality.

    Lelouch is indeed the apparent hypocrite of hypocrites in Geass, he wishes to peace and makes war, he values the lives of a surprisingly large cast of character, and yet takes other life with no remorse, and he is both Zero and the Emperor, just yet unilateral. This hypocrisy, however, is something that exists only in the mind of the unsophisticated viewer. Lelouch does not pretend to believe in morality, he is a strong advocate of my own cynical worldview; that men are motivated by self interest alone and that principle only goes as far as it benefits oneself. With this in mind we find that he is the least hypocritical character of Geass; he has not betrayed himself.

    It would be nice if our world could truly be run by the honest, the straightforward, and the good, but ever are the turns of the world dictated, for good or worse dictated by the tainted. Christianity was not made the religion of the West by sandaled ascetic but by an armored Emperor. China was not made an Empire but a humble monk but mad conqueror. And World War II was certainly not won by the clean either, the Soviets, Patton, even the venerated FDR, who’s popularity generally overrides the darker decisions of his presidency, were the ones who effectively saved the world. So despite all of Geass’s absurdity, I find it quite accurate in creating the character of Lelouch as dark and false as he is.

    That said, my favorite female character is Kallen. What the fuck was that. I don’t even know why she’s working with the Black Knights. Japan is free.

  36. CJ
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    @skoll
    If you look at my post earlier you will see that I agree with you they didn’t give the new knight of rounds a proper knightmare frame but they also didn’t give one to Monica who actually had 10 times the more screen time the black rounds did.

  37. skoll
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    @ CJ

    Sorry. I didn’t read any of the preceding comments, I was just putting my own ideas forward.

  38. シツ - Shitsu
    Posted September 8, 2008 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    I have read all of these comments- don’t ask me to remember all of them- and I think that most of you have very negative views of Code Geass. Here are the main ones I can remember/want to point out:

    1. Karen and Lulu- Lulu was beyond surviving, remember the Geass Massacre? He said that he would wipe out all Geass users, including himself. He wants to become the bad guy. If he let Karen join him, he would just drag her into the whole thing, end up killing himself, and breaking her heart even more. By pushing her away, Lulu is attempting to prevent yet another life be taken because of him. Also, he’s trying to protect her from the heart ache of losing yet another precious loved one. Trust me, it’s easier to get over an ex/could have been lover than a boyfriend.

    2. Nunally surviving- Out of range? Otherwise, I have no idea and completely agree with the ‘Deus ex Machania’/'Get outta hell free ticket’ theory.

    3. It’s Jeremiah Gottwald! And he refuses to go by this, this, Orenji-kun! ^_^

    4. The UFN- See #1. Lulu didn’t really want to join, he just wanted to make everyone mad so they’d turn against him and destroy Brittania…destroy him too, yadda, yadda…and so on, and so on… Then the world will be united for a while, having defeated the big bad Brittania.
    Oh, and Shneizel, too. He needed to make sure Shneizel would attack him at a very vulnerable spot- hence getting all the representatives together, which makes the target all the more worthwhile. Then Lulu and his bro can duke it out, and the winner will be weaker, and then the rest of the world can come and slit their throats in the night.

    Disclaimer: I am not feeling very reserved or grammatically correct right now, so please don’t mind the mistakes.

  39. シツ
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    One more thing- I think Nina’s being sought after because they want her to create more FLEIA’s, not because it was used. To be honest, I would want her on my side- especially with Shneizel bulking up.

    And, I do believe that Nunally has been succesfully brainwashed.

  40. Black Velvet
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 2:21 am | Permalink

    Teh reason Lelouch isn’t gonna pair up:
    ‘A man who talks only of himself, or of his greatness, cannot love anyone until he talks of his faults, and other’s greatness.’

    Just a quote…

    @Shitsu:
    I think you forgot to mention Nina and Rivalz.

    As for Nunally, that may be a well-edited video. You never know…

  41. spike
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    I love watching this show slowly and agonizingly become a parody of itself. It went from an interesting high school (anti)hero + supernatural power + mysterious girl mecha to a 3000 character car crash. This show hooked me in with the terrorist guerrila tactics and awesome pwnage during huge mecha battles. Now all I have left is a yaoi romantic plot, a blind crippled antagonist, and all kinds of supernatural plot cop-outs instead of (major) character development. That doesn’t mean i won’t continue watching, i’ve invested waayyy too much of my life not to see this through.

    And can’t Orange’s geass cure Nunnaly anyway? hell, he used his extremely useful power once the whole f***ing show and hasn’t done anything since.

  42. toasteronfire
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    At this point I’m only watching with the hope that Kallen bites it. She’s turned into quite the annoying little waste of space this season.

  43. Black Velvet
    Posted September 9, 2008 at 7:08 pm | Permalink

    I started rewatching the series just for the heck of it. I stumbled across this, “When the day finally comes that you can see again, I’m sure that it will be.”
    -Lelouch

    Now, with Orenji-kun, and the world turning against Brittania (thus uniting the world), I think that promise will come true.

  44. added these pithy words on...
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 12:24 am | Permalink

    If you flip the wings on the Albion in the 26th down, or 7th up picture, it shows W0. Aka, Wing of Zero.

  45. raindog
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    hey guys we after this i cant wait for the next season

    my friend already found that theyre designing new knightmares for it

    my god can we take another season of this!!!!!!

  46. CJ
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

    @raindog
    There won’t be a third season……

  47. Miki
    Posted September 10, 2008 at 7:12 pm | Permalink

    What the heck is wrong with Nunnally?!?!?!
    Lelouch risks his life to make a better world for her and now she says shes his “enemy”?!
    Darn you Schneizel for hypnotizing Nunnally !
    Poor lelouch…

    Is there gonna be a 3rd season?

  48. added these pithy words on...
    Posted September 11, 2008 at 1:29 am | Permalink

    Rewatching the episode, it makes sense to declare Nunally the emperor. If Shneizel uses Nunally as a puppet-emperor, he’ll not only cause conflict with Lelouch, he’ll also make Lelouch out to be the bad guy.

    Just like Brittania to beat up on the blind and crippled, ne, Zero? We’ll carry out your justice, Zero. Your masquerade is turning against you, Zero. Ne???

    It’s the perfect cover for OBK, and Shneizel gets a kick out of Lelouch’s dismay. Heck, he might even end up ruling the world!

    Please excuse me for saying, DAMN YOU! SHNEIZEL!

  49. woahm4gawd
    Posted September 11, 2008 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    he made a loli cry ffs… Schniezel! SEND LULU TO HELL!!

  50. asdfas
    Posted September 12, 2008 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    @Halycon
    “and Nunnally doesn’t blink an eye (lolpun).”

    I don’t think you know what a pun is.

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