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		<title>By: bearclaws</title>
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		<dc:creator>bearclaws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when I came back from a 30 days trip to check on animeseason, I was like &quot;say what? Haruhi new season!!!! Hold on it has passed April&#039;s fool time for a long time.&quot; Anyway, it was surely a great surprise for me, giving me something to look forward everyday. the first episode was pretty awesome. It really did live up to my expectation. Now, I have added checking new episode into my everyday-must-do list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when I came back from a 30 days trip to check on animeseason, I was like &#8220;say what? Haruhi new season!!!! Hold on it has passed April&#8217;s fool time for a long time.&#8221; Anyway, it was surely a great surprise for me, giving me something to look forward everyday. the first episode was pretty awesome. It really did live up to my expectation. Now, I have added checking new episode into my everyday-must-do list.</p>
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		<title>By: Kobukson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kobukson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lowlife

If remember the second season rumors, they were going to focus it on the Disappearance storyline.  Since that storyline will be presented in this &quot;extended&quot; Haruhi 1.5, I doubt there will be another season soon after since this will address what they were hoping to accomplish with a second season.


Anyways, in terms of the episode, I thought it was alright.  Due to the chronology ordering, we&#039;re going to have to be satisfied with these shorter stories since they jumped around last season putting stories from many of the latter novels in.  Plus, didn&#039;t people complain last season about the end being &quot;lackluster&quot; since they felt like filler episodes?!  Now Kyoto goes and makes it so that the filler will start it off to integrate the &quot;timeline&quot; nicely and end with a giant bang with the Disappearance storyline and people still complain... -.-;;

My only complaint so far (other than the marketing, which was fail; I had to Facebook tell all my friends that Haruhi S2 is kinda showing up since everyone assummed the Haruhi-chan was the end of the series) is the art.  Even watching the 720p version, the art is noticably not as sharp and grabbing as first season.  I&#039;m really hoping that this is because they spent most of their budget on the Disappearnce storyline that will appear at the end and did this episode when their budget was near out, but only time will tell.... (-.-);;

In terms of storyline though, this episode was on par with all the other Haruhi episodes thus far and did a really nice job wrapping up some questions that came up from last season.  Kyon still is the best protagonist out there ^______^  Cracked up at the birthday convo and was rofl when the &quot;John Smith&quot; scene came up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lowlife</p>
<p>If remember the second season rumors, they were going to focus it on the Disappearance storyline.  Since that storyline will be presented in this &#8220;extended&#8221; Haruhi 1.5, I doubt there will be another season soon after since this will address what they were hoping to accomplish with a second season.</p>
<p>Anyways, in terms of the episode, I thought it was alright.  Due to the chronology ordering, we&#8217;re going to have to be satisfied with these shorter stories since they jumped around last season putting stories from many of the latter novels in.  Plus, didn&#8217;t people complain last season about the end being &#8220;lackluster&#8221; since they felt like filler episodes?!  Now Kyoto goes and makes it so that the filler will start it off to integrate the &#8220;timeline&#8221; nicely and end with a giant bang with the Disappearance storyline and people still complain&#8230; -.-;;</p>
<p>My only complaint so far (other than the marketing, which was fail; I had to Facebook tell all my friends that Haruhi S2 is kinda showing up since everyone assummed the Haruhi-chan was the end of the series) is the art.  Even watching the 720p version, the art is noticably not as sharp and grabbing as first season.  I&#8217;m really hoping that this is because they spent most of their budget on the Disappearnce storyline that will appear at the end and did this episode when their budget was near out, but only time will tell&#8230;. (-.-);;</p>
<p>In terms of storyline though, this episode was on par with all the other Haruhi episodes thus far and did a really nice job wrapping up some questions that came up from last season.  Kyon still is the best protagonist out there ^______^  Cracked up at the birthday convo and was rofl when the &#8220;John Smith&#8221; scene came up.</p>
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		<title>By: DashXFox</title>
		<link>http://www.thatanimeblog.com/index.php/2009/05/suzumiya-haruhi-no-yuuutsu-episode-8-how-to-fail-at-marketing-and-how-yuki-partially-saves-it/comment-page-1/#comment-33836</link>
		<dc:creator>DashXFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 11:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So this was just a filler episode? Well in all the animes I&#039;ve seen...

*nods in understanding* That was some good filler.

Also you said something about the art not being as good as the 1st season. I didn&#039;t really see much of a difference. Makes me glad I don&#039;t have those nit picky habits like a lot of people that commented here have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So this was just a filler episode? Well in all the animes I&#8217;ve seen&#8230;</p>
<p>*nods in understanding* That was some good filler.</p>
<p>Also you said something about the art not being as good as the 1st season. I didn&#8217;t really see much of a difference. Makes me glad I don&#8217;t have those nit picky habits like a lot of people that commented here have.</p>
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		<title>By: jayers</title>
		<link>http://www.thatanimeblog.com/index.php/2009/05/suzumiya-haruhi-no-yuuutsu-episode-8-how-to-fail-at-marketing-and-how-yuki-partially-saves-it/comment-page-1/#comment-33835</link>
		<dc:creator>jayers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 04:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that was fail marketing at all. Having never seen the series, I&#039;ve been alert on Haruhi news and fan reactions because that&#039;s more interesting to watch than the actual show (for me anyways). Kyoto animation is very good. They&#039;re dangling the show like a special treat to a bunch of Haruhi-hungry audience. They know exactly how much to give the fans before quickly pulling back, leaving their audience impatient for more. It&#039;s been years since the show ended but people are still crazy about one new episode. There may be complaints but all the fans will end up watching it anyways and they will always run back for more. People are addicted because every bits of Haruhi makes them happy but they only get a limited amount of it. The show becomes almost like cocaine; the more you get the more you need. A studio that can get that kind of craving from fans is a very skilled studio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that was fail marketing at all. Having never seen the series, I&#8217;ve been alert on Haruhi news and fan reactions because that&#8217;s more interesting to watch than the actual show (for me anyways). Kyoto animation is very good. They&#8217;re dangling the show like a special treat to a bunch of Haruhi-hungry audience. They know exactly how much to give the fans before quickly pulling back, leaving their audience impatient for more. It&#8217;s been years since the show ended but people are still crazy about one new episode. There may be complaints but all the fans will end up watching it anyways and they will always run back for more. People are addicted because every bits of Haruhi makes them happy but they only get a limited amount of it. The show becomes almost like cocaine; the more you get the more you need. A studio that can get that kind of craving from fans is a very skilled studio.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuki`N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuki`N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 03:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny you mention the duller colors and art style, and while I agree the raw was quite bad, the raw in the screenshots are actually the most vivid (read: overfiltered as hell) ones that were out there.

Imagine how dull all the other ones were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny you mention the duller colors and art style, and while I agree the raw was quite bad, the raw in the screenshots are actually the most vivid (read: overfiltered as hell) ones that were out there.</p>
<p>Imagine how dull all the other ones were.</p>
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		<title>By: After All the Kadokawa Bullcrap, At Least She&#8217;s Still the Same Suzumiya Haruhi &#187; Behind The Nihon Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>After All the Kadokawa Bullcrap, At Least She&#8217;s Still the Same Suzumiya Haruhi &#187; Behind The Nihon Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 12:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] still makes it pretty difficult to forgive the disenchanting marketing campaign from Kadokawa, but seeing the new episode reminded me that the anime itself is independent from the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] still makes it pretty difficult to forgive the disenchanting marketing campaign from Kadokawa, but seeing the new episode reminded me that the anime itself is independent from the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lowlife</title>
		<link>http://www.thatanimeblog.com/index.php/2009/05/suzumiya-haruhi-no-yuuutsu-episode-8-how-to-fail-at-marketing-and-how-yuki-partially-saves-it/comment-page-1/#comment-33832</link>
		<dc:creator>Lowlife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 12:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Happy I don&#039;t have to assassinate anyone at Kadakawa.  Murder is so hard to get away with these days.  Second, glad Haruhi is back, really didn&#039;t know what I would be watching this season.

About the first episode of the 2nd season, If you notice this is the 8th episode chronologically.  I think this also answers Kadakawa saying they could not make a second season because it was too &quot;hard&quot;. They are not making a second season, they are adding on to the first season!!!  I do not have access to them but I would like to watch the 7 episodes aired recently from the first season to look for any difference in the original episodes from the first airing in 2003.  I beat they put in a few Easter eggs.

I should have copied the list, but I read a play list of all the titles for this showing of Haruhi.  It looks like we will have a few episodes from the first season for then next few weeks and then another new episode.  Then there is a 4 part &quot;the disappearance of Haruhi&quot; which IMO should be really good.

I doubt this, but maybe they will put in these extra episodes and then give us a true 2nd season!?!?!?!?!  Again I doubt it, but maybe they needed to add a little more story to the first season to make a second season work.

yes the episode was filler, but what would you expect from episode 8 of any series?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Happy I don&#8217;t have to assassinate anyone at Kadakawa.  Murder is so hard to get away with these days.  Second, glad Haruhi is back, really didn&#8217;t know what I would be watching this season.</p>
<p>About the first episode of the 2nd season, If you notice this is the 8th episode chronologically.  I think this also answers Kadakawa saying they could not make a second season because it was too &#8220;hard&#8221;. They are not making a second season, they are adding on to the first season!!!  I do not have access to them but I would like to watch the 7 episodes aired recently from the first season to look for any difference in the original episodes from the first airing in 2003.  I beat they put in a few Easter eggs.</p>
<p>I should have copied the list, but I read a play list of all the titles for this showing of Haruhi.  It looks like we will have a few episodes from the first season for then next few weeks and then another new episode.  Then there is a 4 part &#8220;the disappearance of Haruhi&#8221; which IMO should be really good.</p>
<p>I doubt this, but maybe they will put in these extra episodes and then give us a true 2nd season!?!?!?!?!  Again I doubt it, but maybe they needed to add a little more story to the first season to make a second season work.</p>
<p>yes the episode was filler, but what would you expect from episode 8 of any series?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris (Proud Brigade Member)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris (Proud Brigade Member)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 18:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the issue with the marketing. I actually wet on a rampage after that youtube video that was based off this episode and read all the light novels and am now re-reading them.

And as a slave to the goddess of moe, Mikuru, i have to say that i fully enjoyed this episode. Even though it lacked alot of kyon&#039;s inner dialogue.

As far as why there are such devoted fans for a show that appears to have no point...I cant answer that, no one really can. You either go konata for haruhi or you dont, there is no middle ground. Personally i like the show because i relate heavily to kyon, but thats just me. Everyone has a diffrent reason for why the show clicks, if it doesnt click for you just admit that and watch somthing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the issue with the marketing. I actually wet on a rampage after that youtube video that was based off this episode and read all the light novels and am now re-reading them.</p>
<p>And as a slave to the goddess of moe, Mikuru, i have to say that i fully enjoyed this episode. Even though it lacked alot of kyon&#8217;s inner dialogue.</p>
<p>As far as why there are such devoted fans for a show that appears to have no point&#8230;I cant answer that, no one really can. You either go konata for haruhi or you dont, there is no middle ground. Personally i like the show because i relate heavily to kyon, but thats just me. Everyone has a diffrent reason for why the show clicks, if it doesnt click for you just admit that and watch somthing else.</p>
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		<title>By: DLP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DLP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 16:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignore the anti-hype. Haruhi is a fun, smart show with flashes of brilliance (and some blah episodes, like the island mystery). The new 2nd season (or episode 8) was an enjoyable episode that fit right into the series.

&quot;The color wasn&#039;t as bright.&quot; Uh, yeah. Whatever. If I want bright colors, there&#039;s plenty of anime I can watch. I prefer good character design, fun humor, and good characterization and writing, which this episode had. Haruhi explaining Tanabata through the lens of special theory of relativity: comedy gold.

I pity the people who are so into anime fandumb that they either feel they must hate a show that is good because it is &quot;overhyped&quot; or that they have so bought into following every twitch of 2chan and newtype news and whatever that exhaust themselves before a show comes out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignore the anti-hype. Haruhi is a fun, smart show with flashes of brilliance (and some blah episodes, like the island mystery). The new 2nd season (or episode <img src='http://www.thatanimeblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> was an enjoyable episode that fit right into the series.</p>
<p>&#8220;The color wasn&#8217;t as bright.&#8221; Uh, yeah. Whatever. If I want bright colors, there&#8217;s plenty of anime I can watch. I prefer good character design, fun humor, and good characterization and writing, which this episode had. Haruhi explaining Tanabata through the lens of special theory of relativity: comedy gold.</p>
<p>I pity the people who are so into anime fandumb that they either feel they must hate a show that is good because it is &#8220;overhyped&#8221; or that they have so bought into following every twitch of 2chan and newtype news and whatever that exhaust themselves before a show comes out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SDS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 15:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve watched the entire 1st season after reading the positive comments left by several bloggers here and although I can understand the subtle charms generated by its eccentric cast and arguably ingenious storytelling, I am still confused why this anime has garnered so many die-hard fans.

Neither of the two positive factors I named propel it to stardom, but I suspect there is a comparative effect given its &#039;different&#039;. I haven&#039;t read the novels etc. so that might be a difference too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve watched the entire 1st season after reading the positive comments left by several bloggers here and although I can understand the subtle charms generated by its eccentric cast and arguably ingenious storytelling, I am still confused why this anime has garnered so many die-hard fans.</p>
<p>Neither of the two positive factors I named propel it to stardom, but I suspect there is a comparative effect given its &#8216;different&#8217;. I haven&#8217;t read the novels etc. so that might be a difference too.</p>
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